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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv Subject: Re: Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?! Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:46:57 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: <vlsiih$a8vm$2@dont-email.me> References: <vlr5km$mp2$10@dont-email.me> <xn0p0n4qo8gvst5003@post.eweka.nl> <vOS4B+BHbWgnFwj7@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:46:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56267bcd5dfb4a007ddb7eaf881b01ce"; logging-data="336886"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190NtlEbXdpgKBvyKckyxhKRYEiTS1BWNo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eXvi2d/CFif/nzsiPGr2G10qq70= In-Reply-To: <vOS4B+BHbWgnFwj7@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 4148 On 10/01/2025 18:28, John Hall wrote: > In message <xn0p0n4qo8gvst5003@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt > <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes >> Ubiquitous wrote: >> >>> What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that >>> bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as the >>> Doctor? >> >> Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at birth >> by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying to >> strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin Dilemma] >> didn't help his cause either. >> >> It was all downhill after that... > > Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and scriptwriters. An > "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone who, for all his quirks, > should be an unashamedly heroic character. (At least post the First > Doctor's early days.) > >> >> >>> 00:00- Introduction >>> 00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era >>> 02:12- The Twin Dilemma >>> 04:23- Character >>> 07:05- Season 22 >>> 12:00- Hiatus >>> 13:33- Season 23 >>> 16:56- The Aftermath >>> 18:36- Conclusion >>> >>> https://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg?si=ccJUpBtGN0AxH3X2 >>> >>> Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series. >> >> I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst >> Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth Doctor's >> era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy generally >> had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I don't think >> McCoy was up to the task. > > I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor. >> >> Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against the >> BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and Cybermen were >> not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT played in to their >> hands by turning the show in to a pantomime. > > Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the companion. Not that > that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but again down to the way her > character was written. > > I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the final series, > and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time favourite stories, with a couple Battlefield was a big improvement over the previous McCoy episodes and the best of his final series. I was expecting him to last 3 more series especially then things were improving. > of others being almost as good. (And FWIW the authors of The > Discontinuity Guide agree with me.) So I was particularly sad that it That would be Keith Topping et. al. I have the original on my shelf. Did it ever get a second edition? > was cancelled when it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that > the BBC had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against > "Coronation Street". That was during Peter Davison's tenure. McCoy returned to Saturdays. -- The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner