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On 1/10/2025 7:14 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 1/10/2025 5:02 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 1/10/25 13:46, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2025 12:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> He's also been beating "The Ukrainians should be part of Russia" drum
>>>>> for some time now.
>>>>
>>>> Putin has for some time been talking about restoring the Russian 
>>>> Empire of
>>>> the 19th century, and he will talk about various strategic 
>>>> possibilities
>>>> as if he is planning for a land invasion of the type that Napoleon 
>>>> tried.
>>>> In many ways he seems to work hard to emulate the czars.
>>>>
>>>> So, sure, he wants Ukraine.  And when he's got Ukraine he'll want 
>>>> Belarus
>>>> and Armenia and then the Baltic states.
>>>>
>>>> Now... the big question is will he want Poland?  When the Russian 
>>>> Revolution
>>>> happened, the Soviets let go of Poland which had previously been 
>>>> part of the
>>>> Russian Empire.  Putin has talked extensively about what a terrible 
>>>> job Lenin
>>>> did in giving away parts of the empire and allowing SSRs that were 
>>>> part of
>>>> the Soviet union a degree of autonomy that he believes they never 
>>>> should have
>>>> been granted.
>>>>
>>>> In the Soviet era, Poland was just one of the Warsaw Pact states 
>>>> which were
>>>> allied and somewhat controlled by the Soviet Union but not actually 
>>>> part of
>>>> the Soviet union.  (This was because they wanted a barrier of allied
>>>> states in order to block a land invasion.)  Putin talks about how 
>>>> weak this
>>>> arrangement was, and wants something stronger.  The problem here is 
>>>> that
>>>> the Poles don't like Russia very much.
>>>>
>>>> So.... yeah, this is why the war in Ukraine isn't just about 
>>>> Ukraine. And
>>>> yeah, it's an expensive war for Europe and the US to conduct, but 
>>>> not as
>>>> expensive as the alternative.
>>>> --scott
>>>
>>> Poland is part of NATO.  We will not allow Putin to take Poland. 
>>> Nevertheless, Poland is arming itself.
>>>
>>> Putin already took Crimea and Georgia.  He will do what he wants to do.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> `    He will only do what we allow him to do.
>>
>>      First bomb out of the rack from Russia
>> or its North Korean pal will result in a lot of
>> unplanned Russian demolitions and NK would be
>> be history.
>>
>>      You seem to have missed the message of WW II
>> which is that we can take a lot of punishment and still
>> beat the totaliltarian dictators.
>>
>>      Remember Pearl Harbor and the loss of most of
>> the Pacific Fleet? The futile attacks on the West Coast.
>> The incendary ballons sent to the Pacific Northwest?
>>
>>      If we had stood up to the Third Reich earlier
>> the Germans might not have advised the Japanese that
>> we were not fighters. Pacificistic Isolationists and
>> anti-semites kept Roosevelt from helping Europe until
>> we were attacked by Germany's Allies, the Axis.
>>
>>      Pacifistic intentions are fine until the invader
>> is at your door. Then you better hope that you have
>> learned from the past.
>>
>>      bliss - hobble on, hobble on.
> 
> There is a bunch of warmongers on this board.
> 
> Lynn

I'm not a war monger, but you seem to be Neville Chamberlain.

This isn't something we can negotiate. Putin must be taken down.

pt