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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv Subject: Re: Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?! Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:59:22 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 84 Message-ID: <vlsj9q$a8vm$3@dont-email.me> References: <vlr5km$mp2$10@dont-email.me> <xn0p0n4qo8gvst5003@post.eweka.nl> <vOS4B+BHbWgnFwj7@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk> <xn0p0nda98sj32d000@post.eweka.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:59:23 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56267bcd5dfb4a007ddb7eaf881b01ce"; logging-data="336886"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wf7jO4RX7LnUku7o+bzlv0oaQgXizecc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:VmrznCEPHY8+JTJpOC7M/pdxReM= In-Reply-To: <xn0p0nda98sj32d000@post.eweka.nl> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 4937 On 10/01/2025 21:07, Blueshirt wrote: > John Hall wrote: > >> In message <xn0p0n4qo8gvst5003@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt >> <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes >>> Ubiquitous wrote: >>> >> I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor. > > You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never > say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-) > Sylvester McCoy was better than Jodie Whittaker and Ncuti Gatwa by a thousand miles. >>> Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against >>> the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and >>> Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT >>> played in to their hands by turning the show in to a >>> pantomime. >> >> Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the >> companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but >> again down to the way her character was written. > > Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so Ace was way better than Bonnie Langford. It should have been Ace from the start. Mel never sounded credible as a computer programmer. > it's not her fault the character was written that way... all > that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the > time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in > some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace. Ace was JNT's attempt to do Leela, but Leela worked because she was intelligent and lacked being educated, so the Doctor decided to teach her and she was willing to learn. Ace was a retard that dropped out of school and wanted to learn nothing other than trying to blow up the class room. She would have been a better character if she was from a dystopian future were kids had to live on the streets and had no access to education unless they found an old discarded school book from the past discard somewhere. Then you couldn't blame her for acting like an uneducated moron. Leela didn't act like a moron because she learned to live in the jungle. > > If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred > would have won hands-down though. She was hot! > >> I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the >> final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time >> favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as >> good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree >> with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when >> it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC >> had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against >> "Coronation Street". > > The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were > just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure There were mostly full of stupid ideas such as Delta and the Bannermen and filled with idiotic stunt casting like Ken Dodd and Hale and Pace in Survival. Also the degenerate retard JNT wanted to turn Doctor Who into a soap opera and this alienated half the audience. > that JNT would have been able to give them the production > quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for > the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him. He's best performance was in the TVM. That's how he should have been written from the start. McCoy was perfectly capable of taking on the part as can be seen from his appearances on stage and in The Hobbit, but he was given shit scripts and shit stories like Paradise Towers and The Happiness Patrol which weren't written for him properly. -- The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner