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Subject: Re: Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?!
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:00:27 +0000
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On 11/01/2025 01:12, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <xn0p0nda98sj32d000@post.eweka.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> John Hall wrote:
>>
>>> In message <xn0p0n4qo8gvst5003@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
>>>> Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What went wrong with the 6th Doctor era? Was it really that
>>>>> bad? Did Colin Baker deserve to be sacked from his role as
>>>>> the Doctor?
>>>>
>>>> Great actor but for me the Sixth Doctor was strangled at
>>>> birth by JNT's idea of making him look like a clown. Trying
>>>> to strangle his companion in his first episode [The Twin
>>>> Dilemma] didn't help his cause either.
>>>>
>>>> It was all downhill after that...
>>>
>>> Yep. Colin Baker was let down by his producer and
>>> scriptwriters. An "edgy" Doctor just isn't right for someone
>>> who, for all his quirks, should be an unashamedly heroic
>>> character. (At least post the First Doctor's early days.)
>>
>> Colin Baker has shown what he can do as the Sixth Doctor in the
>> Big Finish Doctor Who audios... I know they are not part of the
>> televised canon but the Sixth Doctor audio adventures are some
>> of the best stories that Big Finish have produced. So whatever
>> the failings of the Sixth Doctor's TV era were, it wasn't Colin
>> Baker!
>>
>>>>> 00:00- Introduction
>>>>> 00:35- The End Of The 5th Doctor Era
>>>>> 02:12- The Twin Dilemma
>>>>> 04:23- Character
>>>>> 07:05- Season 22
>>>>> 12:00- Hiatus
>>>>> 13:33- Season 23
>>>>> 16:56- The Aftermath
>>>>> 18:36- Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/Vzu4KwH5Owg?si=ccJUpBtGN0AxH3X2
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, he's the worst of the classic series.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be more inclined to say the Seventh Doctor was the worst
>>>> Doctor of the classic era... the failings of the Sixth
>>>> Doctor's era were not learnt from and whilst Sylvester McCoy
>>>> generally had [potentially] better scripts to work with, I
>>>> don't think McCoy was up to the task.
>>>
>>> I know I'm in a minority here, I rather liked McCoy's Doctor.
>>
>> You're allowed to like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor... just never
>> say he was better than Jon Pertwee!!! ;-)
>>
>>>> Both the Sixth and Seventh Doctor's were in a fight against
>>>> the BBC for survival at that time though, Daleks and
>>>> Cybermen were not the Doctor's main enemy. But for me, JNT
>>>> played in to their hands by turning the show in to a
>>>> pantomime.
>>>
>>> Things greatly improved when Ace replaced Mel as the
>>> companion. Not that that was Bonnie Langford's fault, but
>>> again down to the way her character was written.
>>
>> Ace was a bit too OTT for me, but Sophie Aldred is lovely so
>> it's not her fault the character was written that way... all
>> that teenage anger and wanting to blow everything up all the
>> time. JNT's idea of a companion was different to mine and in
>> some ways I actually preferred Melanie Bush to Ace.
>>
>> If I had a choice to date either of them then Sophie Aldred
>> would have won hands-down though. She was hot!
>>
>>> I think there was a big improvement in the scripts for the
>>> final series, and "Battlefield" is one of my all-time
>>> favourite stories, with a couple of others being almost as
>>> good. (And FWIW the authors of The Discontinuity Guide agree
>>> with me.) So I was particularly sad that it was cancelled when
>>> it seemed on an upwards trend. But it was clear that the BBC
>>> had the knives out for it when they scheduled it against
>>> "Coronation Street".
>>
>> The Seventh Doctor's scripts had some great ideas, they were
>> just poorly realised. Even with a decent budget I'm not sure
>> that JNT would have been able to give them the production
>> quality they deserved. Plus Sylvester McCoy wasn't the man for
>> the job as far as I was concerned, so I never really took to him.
> 
> I like all Doctors except for the Timeless Child.

Even Whittaker?

Doctor Who ended in 2017!

The Timeless Child is a monstrosity and not the Doctor.

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