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From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM>
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Subject: Re: [News] Disney's Steaming Content with Ads
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:34:58 +0000
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On 10/01/2025 22:42, Blueshirt wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
> 
>> On 10/01/2025 16:19, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> In fairness, the article did say "estimated"...
>>
>> Made up and which bares no resemblance to the real figures of
>> people who watched each episode all the way through which only
>> amounts to about 200.
> 
> Subscriber figures have no relation to people watching something
> all the way through... I assume that term means people paying
> for a subscription. Once you have paid for the service I wouldn't
> think they'd care how long you watched something for... just
> keep that Direct Debit coming in!
> 
>>> My understanding is, (based on something I read online, so
>>> not necessarily a fact) is that everything is done per
>>> quarter. So if I subscribed to Disney+ for a month and then
>>> un-subscribed, I would be classed as a paying subscriber for
>>> that "quarter"  -
>>
>> You be classed as a subscribed unless you totally deleted your
>> account not just cancelled your subscription.
> 
> If you're not subscribed then you can't be called a subscriber.
> 

Just having an account with them means they can call you a subscriber 
even if you are not paying them anything or even watching anything. 
They're nothing more than a pack of deceiving liars.

> I'm not saying the streaming services don't do that, as I don't
> know. But it wouldn't make any sense or be legally accurate.

If you need to subscribe to obtain their service, notifications, or show 
your support then you are a subscriber.

Look at the button on YouTube which says subscribe. You don't pay 
anything to any of these channels you subscribe to unless you become a 
Member.

> Plus, their figures would never go down, and Disney have often
> said their subscription numbers declined in Q1 or Q3 etc... Much

Those are because people have deleted their accounts. They still count 
you as a subscriber if your account is still extant.

> more easier to give people special offers that span "quarters"
> and get you subscribed, or re-subscribed. Then you can
> legitimately be classed as a subscriber for those quarters, even
> though you might have only paid a few quid and then
> un-subscribed.

See YouTube.

> 
> This is basically the gist of what I read a while ago anyway.
> It's not so much lies, more a case of manipulation.

So you've never used YouTube.

> 
>>> and included in that quarter's figures - even though I was
>>> only a subscriber for a part of it. (That's where the
>>> special offers play their part! We had one here recently,
>>> Disney+ for €1.99 a month, for three months. Boom! You're
>>> now part of the quarterly subscriber figures!)
>>
>> Even if it cost you nothing you'd still be counted. It's all a
>> scam. If they don't provide everyone with the raw data so it
>> can be annualized properly take everything to be a scam. Look
>> at the Nvidia and AMD graphics card scam going on at CES even
>> right now where Nvidia is claiming a 12 GB RTX 5070 is as fast
>> as an 24 GB RTX 4090. AFTER THE INSERTION OF 3 FAKE FRAMES
>> between two genuine ones!
> 
> Most things are a scam or PR spin these days, but I still don't
> think the likes of Disney, Netflix and Amazon just pluck random
> figures out of the air for their subscriber figures. They might

Well they do. They're psychopathic liars.

> like to spin them in a positive way but they have to be based on
> something. You couldn't say you had one million subscribers and
> then have no income from those services in your accounts at the
> end of the year!

Except they don't publish their accounts. How much has Disney made from 
actual paying subscribers? They've never given a figure.


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