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Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle At The Door
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 21:55:46 -0500
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On 1/10/2025 9:29 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 1/10/25 18:05, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> On 1/10/2025 8:44 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2025 5:15 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On 1/10/2025 4:04 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 4:57 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/9/25 12:21, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/8/2025 5:52 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/8/25 14:11, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pearls Before Swine: Uncle At The Door
>>>>>>>>>>>>       https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/01/08
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I figure before this nightmare is over, they will come for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all of our
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's your fault.   Voting for for the spend and no tax 
>>>>>>>>>>> republicans.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One should reduce spending - before - reducing the income.  Any
>>>>>>>>>>> rational
>>>>>>>>>>> non-republican recognizes that.   The "starve the beast" 
>>>>>>>>>>> idiom is
>>>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>>>> GOP thinking that obviously hasn't been effective.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        MAGA voted for the billionaires pal. He is such a good 
>>>>>>>>>> pal that
>>>>>>>>>> he cut taxes before on the most well off to move the burden of 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> nation's wars and disasters to the less well off. He intends to
>>>>>>>>>> continue this inflationary policy until he stops breathing.
>>>>>>>>>>        People believed him when he said he would cut the cost of
>>>>>>>>>> the groceries but as soon he could he gave an interview and said
>>>>>>>>>> it was impossible. We controlled prices during WW II so it is not
>>>>>>>>>> impossible. We have several wars going on right now the most 
>>>>>>>>>> meanful
>>>>>>>>>> is to reduce carbon dioxide output from human activities so the
>>>>>>>>>> War On Climate Change might make rationing and price controls
>>>>>>>>>> rational again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        bliss - the hobbler
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Bobbie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Got water in your fire hydrants ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        I live in San Francisco not the City of the Angels.
>>>>>>>> Since the Fire and Quake in 1906, Water for the Hydrants
>>>>>>>> has been a big item.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Remember when thinking of Los Angeles that the
>>>>>>>> Devils and Demons are all fallen angels. There are books
>>>>>>>> and Movies that relate the way LA got its water and now
>>>>>>>> it is attempting to drain the rivers of Northern California.
>>>>>>>> Look up Delta Project in the Central Valley of California.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        bliss - the hobbler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know this, you have typed about the SF library several times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If LA has dropped their water sources, can San Fransisco be far 
>>>>>>> behind ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only problem with your question is that the first part isn't
>>>>>> even partly true; therefore the second part is completely irrelevent.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://fakenews.com/jenvanlaar/2025/01/10/bombshell-key-reservoir- 
>>>>> was-empty-when-palisades-fire-started-contributed-to-loss-of-homes- 
>>>>> and-life-n2184190
>>>>
>>>> You really need to find more reliable sources.
>>>
>>> https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged- 
>>> in- palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>
>> The story's true - I saw it from other sources too. Why you chose to
>> point us at a garbage source to start, I don't know.
>> The reservoir was down for quite some time to repair rips in its cover.
>>
>> Would it have made a difference? We're certainly going to see analysis
>> of this in the coming months, as politicians move into the
>> finger-pointing phase.
>>
>> The impression I get is that it would have helped, but not hugely. It
>> could have feed some more water to the tanks that pressurized the
>> hydrants, but probably not fast enough to keep the highest ones running.
>>
>> The system simply wasn't sized to deal with this big and widespread a
>> fire - it would have been fine if a few streets were involved but not
>> 30 square miles of houses. The problem was compounded by the high
>> winds, which not only spread the fire, but also grounded air tankers.
>>
>> pt
> 
>      The real problem originated last year when after two years
> of heavier than normal rain no fuel clearance was done by the
> County and the State on the coastal range behind the LA basin.
> As was pointed out today by the Mayor of LA, the Fire Department
> is much smaller than the City requires but has not been dealt
> with for many years while the City of Los Angeles has grown both
> in population and area. Who resists paying property taxes to
> the City for vital services?  I dunno but the original property
> tax reduction done some years ago benefitted big business though
> it was touted as a benefit to old retired folks. That was I believe
> Proposition 13.  Well I don't have to believe it I have the
> WWW and it tells me that in 1978.
>> Proposition 13 is an amendment of the Constitution of California 
>> enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process, to cap 
>> property taxes and limit property reassessments to when the property 
>> changes ownership, and to require a 2/3 majority for tax increases in 
>> the state legislature.
> 
>      So the rich profitted immensely and the old folks without
> county services paid for by property taxes soon lost any benefit.
> Not only the retired but the young suffered as programs like
> Physical Education and Art including Music were cut back to what
> the parents could afford. I think that is when Civics education
> was cut.
> 
>      I think San Francisco voted solidly against this measure
> but the rest of the state was not so well informed as to the
> consequences. Cutting schooling is like a cutting the throat
> of the future. It certainly is a way to hobble young minds.
> 
>      bliss - hobble, hobble, my ankle is broken but not
> my spirit.
> 

Prop 13 certainly is the source of a lot of problems in
California governance.

pt