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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:27:49 +0000
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On 11/01/2025 11:42, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-01-09, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> You forget that it is the people who do not want nuclear. It is proven
>>>> dangerous.
>>>
>>> This is factually incorrect. If you cound the nr of dead, coal, hydro 
>>> and
>>> solar have all killed more people than nuclear.
>>>
>>> Remember the death count at Fukushima due to radiation... it is 
>>> firmly at
>>> 0.
>>
>> Ditto for Three Mile Island, which to this day I take as an example of
>> how safe nuclear is.  Total meltdown, but no casualties.
>>
>> Meanwhile, how many people have been hit by coal trains or died a
>> slow lingering death from black lung?
> 
> One of the most fascinating statistics I've found when looking at solar 
> is that it has a significant amount of people who died, when the owner 
> wanted to adjust something on the roof, climbed up and fell down. This 
> figure and related deaths is very interesting.

One incident too small to even be findable on the Internet  that I saw 
in a local paper years ago was when a wind turbine blade was being 
unloaded, and it slipped and fell on a dock worker, killing him.

There are more such incidents recorded though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YvQr7nlBzs

https://www.tiktok.com/@decodedbyprince/video/7207492265650965786?lang=en


The more memorable incident of a German parachutist being killed when 
she drifted into a wind farm, is out there though..

"A 23-year-old woman from Schwerin died while making her first parachute 
jump when she hit a wind turbine at the Lemkenfeld wind station on the 
German island of Fehmarn in the early afternoon of Sunday, May 28. Her 
name has not been released by the Oldenburg police. The wind is believed 
to have blown her off course towards the wind station, while her 
instructor and another member of the Lübeck parachuting club got down 
safely, according to the regional Kieler Nachrichten newspaper. Other 
press reports state that strong winds were blowing on May 28 and the 
victim was blown several kilometres off course. The Oldenburg police 
have passed the case to the public prosecution office at Lübeck. "

And yet Fukushima, where no one died at all, is recorded as a 'disaster'

The fact is that wind turbines kill people, As do solar installations.

What would you rather attend - a wind turbine in the middle of a storm 
tossed North Sea  hundreds of feet up with only one way down, or a solar 
farm generating thousands of volts ...

Or a nice cold reactor in a safe machine hall with overhead cranes 
already installed. Subject to such stringent safety regulations that 
almost no one has died during routine maintenance, ever.

Remember 'creates green jobs' means it needs an army of expensive people 
juts to build, install  and keep it working, which means its expensive 
and unreliable...


-- 
     “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the 
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most 
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of 
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which 
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by 
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

     ― Leo Tolstoy