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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marcus <m.delete@this.bitsnbites.eu> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: What do we call non-pipelined designs? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:13:50 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <vluccu$nbi8$1@dont-email.me> References: <vj55g7$1m45$1@dont-email.me> <vkj8ap$2tmnh$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:13:50 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5ec42e9cf217312be441b02de30a5172"; logging-data="765512"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181i5NO2rYi/LsjEP3K0u1auRUakFce7oU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:T6vhKVW7IV2UO7GqIdYhAfq8NzM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vkj8ap$2tmnh$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2885 On 2024-12-26, Robert Finch wrote: > On 2024-12-08 5:10 p.m., Marcus wrote: >> I usually (and simplistically) divide CPU designs (implementations) into >> two main categories: >> >> - Pipelined >> - Non-pipelined >> >> Of course, there is a sliding scale at play, but let's not get into that >> debate. >> >> My question is: What is the best name for non-pipelined designs? >> >> I'm thinking about CPU:s that transition through several states (one >> clock cycle after another) when executing a single instruction (e.g. >> FETCH + DECODE + EXECUTE), and where instruction and data typically >> share the same memory interface. >> >> /Marcus > According to my understanding of “pipelined” most designs are > pipelined. There are not very many non-pipelined designs. True. I'm talking about a niche here. > Non-pipelined designs perform everything in one long clock cycle. The designs I'm thinking about are mostly multi-cycle, i.e. one instruction takes several cycles to complete. > Otherwise, there are two major classes of pipelined designs, > non-overlapped pipeline and overlapped pipeline. Some designs are > partially overlapped pipelined. For the sake of the argument, what should we call: * Intel 8008 [1] * Olof Kindgren's SERV [2] * MOS 6502 [3] ? There may be some pipelining in parts of these designs, but the key point I'm trying to get at is that the CPU typically goes through a sequence of states when executing an instruction, and it is typically "busy" for more than one clock cycle while executing one instruction. /Marcus [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8008 [2] https://serv.readthedocs.io/en/latest/internals.html#instruction-life-cycle [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502