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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 12:23:25 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 46 Message-ID: <vm0c7t$140hv$18@dont-email.me> References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jdq$3st6d$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jul$3sqfa$4@dont-email.me> <vl8otk$3splv$3@dont-email.me> <vl8qm7$3u6t2$1@dont-email.me> <vl93dl$3vkun$1@dont-email.me> <vl9449$3vo6h$3@dont-email.me> <vl9aov$pp7$1@dont-email.me> <vla4hr$5n4v$1@dont-email.me> <vlblqj$harb$1@dont-email.me> <lttopaFoh2cU8@mid.individual.net> <vle8uk$12sii$2@dont-email.me> <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <2e17ec15-582f-5a71-84e5-d4d490274270@example.net> <vlj20k$25740$9@dont-email.me> <7454fa51-3534-2584-2197-90613efb2091@example.net> <XPSdnbpbLvJvxeL6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vloss6$3e1r9$5@dont-email.me> <vlp4pc$3fpg0$7@dont-email.me> <vlpc44$3h48e$4@dont-email.me> <vlqi4a$3sp5m$2@dont-email.me> <ludkg3Fcu8aU4@mid.individual.net> <vltmrd$jnea$2@dont-email.me> <lug0u7FotnoU3@mid.individual.net> <j6-dnefHsrFokx76nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <GfOgP.20181$G93a.3099@fx05.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 13:23:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f926649ad379acaad6b98eb2a7a7167"; logging-data="1180223"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19gRsy70WYOTwRXRlZ7zjCiwp8U/deEi0E=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:R8xtmVyp7ZRi4Wu3o6tPnCMBJjk= In-Reply-To: <GfOgP.20181$G93a.3099@fx05.iad> Content-Language: en-GB On 12/01/2025 12:07, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-01-12, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > >> The 8086 would have been better, but the extra wiring >> apparently would have pushed up the price too much >> according to some old interview with an IBM guy. >> They didn't KNOW it would be super-successful, so they >> kinda hedged their bets, split the diff. 640k banks >> were a hell of a lot better than 64k banks. > > The 64K barrier was alive and well on the 8086/8. > I wrote a lot of horrible code to deal with large arrays. > Then there were all the memory models: tiny, small, large, > huge... yuck. Well most of my code ran in 64k. Ultimately you could use large models - the compiler took care of all that crap if you did. IIRC it all vanished as an issue with te 386... "he ability for a 386 to be set up to act like it had a flat memory model in protected mode despite the fact that it uses a segmented memory model in all modes was arguably the most important feature change for the x86 processor family until AMD released the x86-64 in 2003" > >> The instructions for the 8088 were "familiar" to >> anyone who did the 8008/8080 and not TOO far >> from Z-80 sensibility - so I think that cinched Intel >> as the maker. WISH they'd used the 68000s. Ever >> see the Sage boxes ... gone alas before I could >> afford one ....... > > I got into the Amiga and enjoyed the 68000 that way. > I coded Z80, 8088 and 6809 in my time. In assembler. Once the 386 came in it was simply a matter of using 'C' everywhere. and let thecompiler sort out the mess. -- “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it.” – H. L. Mencken