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From: Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Must be Soup Weather :)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 10:37:25 -0500
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On 1/12/2025 10:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2025-01-12, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>> In article <vm045a$13lb1$2@dont-email.me>, chamilton5280
>> @invalid.com says...
>>>
>>> On 2025-01-12, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
>>>> ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:28:03 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's chilly here in southern South Carolina.  40F/4C right now and windy
>>>>>> so it feels colder.  It won't get much warmer than that today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be making a large pot of 15 Bean Soup (Hurst's HamBeens) using
>>>>>> diced ham (as opposed to ham hocks, sausage or a ham bone).  I'm using
>>>>>> the crock pot/slow cooker for this.
>>>>>> ***************
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I'll bake a skillet of cornbread to go with it. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've yet to ever make any sort of beans in the crockpot.
>>>>
>>>>    if the crockpot doesn't get hot enough you could be
>>>> getting more toxins than you should.  certain ones in
>>>> some kinds of beans (red beans, but some others too)
>>>> make it important enough to make sure they get a good
>>>> boil.  at higher elevations this may be a significant
>>>> challenge.
>>>
>>> Modern crockpots get pretty hot.
>>
>>    Do they boil?
>>
>>     Red kidney beans need to be boiled for 10 minutes to
>> destroy toxins..
>>
>> https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2021/05/how-to-avoid-
>> poisoning-from-red-beans/
>>
>>    "Slow cookers should not be used to cook the beans or
>> dishes that contain them. Studies of casseroles cooked in
>> slow cookers revealed that the food only reached internal
>> temperatures of 75 degrees C (167 degrees F) or less."
> 
> It depends on the slow cooker.  High might range between
> 170 and 280 F.  I'd test my own in the unlikely event I
> wanted to cook dry beans.
> 
All I know is the bean soup cooked beautifully and I'm not sick after 
having a bowl of 15 bean soup for dinner last night.  Songbird 
theorizing about potential toxins/illness from cooking dried red kidney 
beans in a crock pot is a waste of my time.  Then again, he can't seem 
to use a crock pot without cracking the crock.

Jill