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Subject: Re: Alan Dershowitz Says Trump Is Guilty and Must Receive The
 Harshest Punishment The Law Allows
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On 1/11/2025 5:13 PM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 1/11/2025 4:13 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/11/2025 2:19 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Fri Jan 10 20:10:55 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2025 5:58 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>> On Fri Jan 10 21:47:13 2025 Adrian Dittman  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Judge Will Overturn Donald Trump's Conviction?Alan 
>>>>>> Dershowitz
>>>>>> Published May 31, 2024 at 11:12 AM EDT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attorney Alan Dershowitz believes former President 
>>>>>> Donald Trump's
>>>>>> conviction in his criminal hush money case will not be 
>>>>>> overturned due to
>>>>>> the New York legal system and judges not wanting to be 
>>>>>> held
>>>>>> "responsible" for such decisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump has lashed out at the Manhattan jury's decision 
>>>>>> to find him guilty
>>>>>> of 34 counts of falsifying business records in 
>>>>>> relation to purported hush
>>>>>> money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels 
>>>>>> in the months
>>>>>> leading up to his successful 2016 presidential 
>>>>>> election victory. Daniels
>>>>>> alleged that she had an affair with Trump in 2006, 
>>>>>> which he has denied.
>>>>>> Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg brought the 
>>>>>> case forward as part
>>>>>> of a March 2023 indictment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a 
>>>>>> conflicted judge who
>>>>>> was corrupt," Trump said outside the courtroom 
>>>>>> following the verdict.
>>>>>> Trump, who has long denounced the prosecution as a 
>>>>>> "witch hunt," has said
>>>>>> he is innocent of all charges in this case and other 
>>>>>> criminal and civil
>>>>>> cases he is facing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While appearing on Steve Bannon's War Room podcast on 
>>>>>> Thursday,
>>>>>> Dershowitz said the former president "has to appeal 
>>>>>> first through the New
>>>>>> York system, and the New York system are all judges 
>>>>>> that don't wanna be
>>>>>> responsible for freeing Donald Trump."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He added: "These are people who have to live with 
>>>>>> their families. These
>>>>>> are people who don't wanna be Dershowitzed."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Newsweek has reached out to Dershowitz via email for 
>>>>>> further comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The longtime lawyer and Harvard Law School professor 
>>>>>> emeritus compared
>>>>>> Trump's legal anguish to his own personal strife, 
>>>>>> mentioning how Harvard
>>>>>> Law School "canceled" him after 50 years of service 
>>>>>> due to him
>>>>>> representing Trump during his first impeachment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "People know what happened to me when I defended 
>>>>>> Donald Trump on the
>>>>>> floor of the Senate. Nobody on Martha's Vineyard would 
>>>>>> speak to me....I
>>>>>> am not encouraged that he'll get a fair appeal," 
>>>>>> Dershowitz said, adding
>>>>>> that the case may reach the Supreme Court, but not 
>>>>>> prior to the November
>>>>>> 5 election.
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>>>>>> Alan Dershowitz
>>>>>> Attorney Alan Dershowitz returns to the courtroom 
>>>>>> after a break during
>>>>>> former President Donald Trump's hush money trial at 
>>>>>> Manhattan Criminal
>>>>>> Court on May 20 in New York City. Dershowitz believes 
>>>>>> Trump's conviction
>>>>>> in his...
>>>>>> Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The legal analyst also said he predicted a Trump 
>>>>>> conviction in this case
>>>>>> due to the location of the trial and strong Democratic 
>>>>>> leaning in New
>>>>>> York City, echoing Trump's words about the overall 
>>>>>> case being "rigged."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dershowitz's Thursday remarks are contrary to what he 
>>>>>> said earlier this
>>>>>> month, in which he said during the first days of the 
>>>>>> trial that
>>>>>> prosecutors in the hush money case were perhaps 
>>>>>> following a doomed
>>>>>> "roadmap" in attempting to reach a Trump conviction? 
>>>>>> comparing the case to
>>>>>> the New York Court of Appeals' overturning of Harvey 
>>>>>> Weinstein's 2020
>>>>>> rape conviction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I can't imagine how the Court of Appeals in New York 
>>>>>> that reversed the
>>>>>> Harvey Weinstein conviction?which was a harder case to 
>>>>>> reverse? wouldn't
>>>>>> reverse this conviction if it got up there," he said 
>>>>>> on Fox News.
>>>>>> Read more
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Donald Trump "nearly doubled" fundraising record 
>>>>>> after verdict:
>>>>>> Campaign
>>>>>>       George Conway trolls evangelical leader's 
>>>>>> defense of Donald Trump
>>>>>>       Donald Trump's hometown newspaper cheers guilty 
>>>>>> verdict: "Damning"
>>>>>>       Mary Trump does victory lap after Donald Trump 
>>>>>> verdict
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The longtime lawyer also said in April that some 
>>>>>> Democrats wanted Trump
>>>>>> "killed" based on legislation introduced by 
>>>>>> Representative Bennie
>>>>>> Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, called the "Denying 
>>>>>> Infinite Security
>>>>>> and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted 
>>>>>> and Extremely
>>>>>> Dishonorable Former Protectees Act"?or the DISGRACED 
>>>>>> Act?intended to
>>>>>> terminate Secret Service protection for individuals 
>>>>>> convicted of either
>>>>>> state or local felonies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New York City-based attorney Nicole Brenecki recently 
>>>>>> told Newsweek that
>>>>>> Secret Service has very likely already been involved 
>>>>>> in any potential
>>>>>> incarceration discussions should Trump be sentenced to 
>>>>>> prison time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump's sentencing will be on July 11.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A Democrat prosecutor taking a case SPECIFICALLY before 
>>>>> a Democrat judge and with 100% registered Democrat Jury.
>>>>>
>>>>> There isn't even an INKLING of a law that makes it 
>>>>> illegal for a man to pay a sexual partner for her 
>>>>> silence or else the entire Democrat Congress would be DOA.
>>>>
>>>> No one said an NDL is illegal. He was not charged for that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think that Trump was charged with? The DA 
>>> claimed that paying for a woman's silence broke election 
>>> laws since it could have cost him votes.
>>
>> Not quite.
>>
>> An NDA is perfectly legal (I have been on either side of 
>> several NDAs over the years).
>>
>> Disgraced attorney Cohen (who later admitted stealing from 
>> Mr Trump separately from this situation) wrote the NDA, 
>> secured the signature and made the disbursement. He then 
>> billed the Trump organization and requested 34 payments. 
>> The bookkeepers entered those payments as 'legal expense', 
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