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Subject: Re: Alan Dershowitz Says Trump Is Guilty and Must Receive The
 Harshest Punishment The Law Allows
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On 1/11/2025 5:46 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 18:13:09 -0500, zen cycle
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/11/2025 4:13 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2025 2:19 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>> On Fri Jan 10 20:10:55 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
>>>>> On 1/10/2025 5:58 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri Jan 10 21:47:13 2025 Adrian Dittman  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Judge Will Overturn Donald Trump's Conviction?Alan Dershowitz
>>>>>>> Published May 31, 2024 at 11:12 AM EDT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attorney Alan Dershowitz believes former President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>> conviction in his criminal hush money case will not be overturned
>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>> the New York legal system and judges not wanting to be held
>>>>>>> "responsible" for such decisions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump has lashed out at the Manhattan jury's decision to find him
>>>>>>> guilty
>>>>>>> of 34 counts of falsifying business records in relation to
>>>>>>> purported hush
>>>>>>> money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels in the months
>>>>>>> leading up to his successful 2016 presidential election victory.
>>>>>>> Daniels
>>>>>>> alleged that she had an affair with Trump in 2006, which he has
>>>>>>> denied.
>>>>>>> Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg brought the case forward as
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> of a March 2023 indictment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> was corrupt," Trump said outside the courtroom following the verdict.
>>>>>>> Trump, who has long denounced the prosecution as a "witch hunt,"
>>>>>>> has said
>>>>>>> he is innocent of all charges in this case and other criminal and
>>>>>>> civil
>>>>>>> cases he is facing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While appearing on Steve Bannon's War Room podcast on Thursday,
>>>>>>> Dershowitz said the former president "has to appeal first through
>>>>>>> the New
>>>>>>> York system, and the New York system are all judges that don't
>>>>>>> wanna be
>>>>>>> responsible for freeing Donald Trump."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He added: "These are people who have to live with their families.
>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>> are people who don't wanna be Dershowitzed."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Newsweek has reached out to Dershowitz via email for further comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The longtime lawyer and Harvard Law School professor emeritus compared
>>>>>>> Trump's legal anguish to his own personal strife, mentioning how
>>>>>>> Harvard
>>>>>>> Law School "canceled" him after 50 years of service due to him
>>>>>>> representing Trump during his first impeachment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "People know what happened to me when I defended Donald Trump on the
>>>>>>> floor of the Senate. Nobody on Martha's Vineyard would speak to
>>>>>>> me....I
>>>>>>> am not encouraged that he'll get a fair appeal," Dershowitz said,
>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>> that the case may reach the Supreme Court, but not prior to the
>>>>>>> November
>>>>>>> 5 election.
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>>>>>>> Alan Dershowitz
>>>>>>> Attorney Alan Dershowitz returns to the courtroom after a break during
>>>>>>> former President Donald Trump's hush money trial at Manhattan Criminal
>>>>>>> Court on May 20 in New York City. Dershowitz believes Trump's
>>>>>>> conviction
>>>>>>> in his...
>>>>>>> Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The legal analyst also said he predicted a Trump conviction in this
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>> due to the location of the trial and strong Democratic leaning in New
>>>>>>> York City, echoing Trump's words about the overall case being
>>>>>>> "rigged."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dershowitz's Thursday remarks are contrary to what he said earlier
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> month, in which he said during the first days of the trial that
>>>>>>> prosecutors in the hush money case were perhaps following a doomed
>>>>>>> "roadmap" in attempting to reach a Trump conviction?comparing the
>>>>>>> case to
>>>>>>> the New York Court of Appeals' overturning of Harvey Weinstein's 2020
>>>>>>> rape conviction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I can't imagine how the Court of Appeals in New York that reversed
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Harvey Weinstein conviction?which was a harder case to reverse?
>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>> reverse this conviction if it got up there," he said on Fox News.
>>>>>>> Read more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        Donald Trump "nearly doubled" fundraising record after verdict:
>>>>>>> Campaign
>>>>>>>        George Conway trolls evangelical leader's defense of Donald
>>>>>>> Trump
>>>>>>>        Donald Trump's hometown newspaper cheers guilty verdict:
>>>>>>> "Damning"
>>>>>>>        Mary Trump does victory lap after Donald Trump verdict
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The longtime lawyer also said in April that some Democrats wanted
>>>>>>> Trump
>>>>>>> "killed" based on legislation introduced by Representative Bennie
>>>>>>> Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, called the "Denying Infinite
>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>> and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely
>>>>>>> Dishonorable Former Protectees Act"?or the DISGRACED Act?intended to
>>>>>>> terminate Secret Service protection for individuals convicted of
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> state or local felonies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New York City-based attorney Nicole Brenecki recently told Newsweek
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> Secret Service has very likely already been involved in any potential
>>>>>>> incarceration discussions should Trump be sentenced to prison time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump's sentencing will be on July 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Democrat prosecutor taking a case SPECIFICALLY before a Democrat
>>>>>> judge and with 100% registered Democrat Jury.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There isn't even an INKLING of a law that makes it illegal for a man
>>>>>> to pay a sexual partner for her silence or else the entire Democrat
>>>>>> Congress would be DOA.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one said an NDL is illegal. He was not charged for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think that Trump was charged with? The DA claimed that
>>>> paying for a woman's silence broke election laws since it could have
>>>> cost him votes.
>>>
>>> Not quite.
>>>
>>> An NDA is perfectly legal (I have been on either side of several NDAs
>>> over the years).
>>>
>>> Disgraced attorney Cohen (who later admitted stealing from Mr Trump
>>> separately from this situation) wrote the NDA, secured the signature and
>>> made the disbursement. He then billed the Trump organization and
>>> requested 34 payments. The bookkeepers entered those payments as 'legal
>>> expense', which in fact they were.
>>>
>>> After the 2016 election, the FEC investigated the matter to see if any
>>> of it constituted an illegal campaign contribution. Their decision was
>>> that no violation occurred and no complaint should be brought.
>>>
>>> Nothing happened until Mr Trump announced his candidacy for the 2024
>>> election. Then this contorted logic lawsuit (and others) sprung up as if
>>> by magic. And when I say magic, I mean Eric Holder and Merrick Garland.
>>> Without precedent, the US Justice Department #3 official Michael
>>> Colangelo took over the case in a New York County court and steered it
>>> along, wrote the indictment, briefs, personally argued the case. Mr
>>> Bragg's Manhattan District Attorney office has a $575 million annual
>>> budget and 1200 employees including experienced qualified attorneys. and
>>> yet...
>>>
>>>
>>> So as I understand it they charge that writing an NDA is not a crime but
>>> recording payments for legal services as 'legal services' is an infraction.
>>>
>>> Since that is an administrative infraction, they then extended it to
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