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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 09:05:39 -0800
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On 1/12/2025 7:45 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> D  <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> in Korea, several of my wife's cousins fought in Vietnam.  My son fought in
>>> Iraq.  I vote that we let Europe fight it out this time on their own.  There
>>> will be more wars coming after this one.
>>
>> It might sound strange, but I actually understand this point of view 100%, and
>> that is why I would not, and cannot criticize the US if it decides to drop
>> ukraine. I would of course be sad, and I do not think it would make for a safer
>> world, in fact, I think it will make for a much worse conflict further down the
>> line that the US will be pulled into, but... I do understand that the US cannot
>> play world police forever, and I think it is 100% true that the EU should start
>> to take responsibility itself, instead of riding on the US.
> 
> I completely understand that point of view, and I think a number of the
> wars that we have been in, such as Vietnam or the second Gulf War, were
> gone into for the wrong reasons and started by America.  Even a person
> who supports war in general should not be able to support wars like that.
> 
> But... I also think this particular war can head off future wars.  I don't
> like it.  I don't think it should ever have started but I also think that
> diplomats on both sides did as much as they possibly could to prevent it.

I have to disagree with that last line.  One side did their best to 
prevent it without effectively surrendering their sovereignty.  The 
other side demanded surrender and invaded without warning.

> I also think that the US has done a very good job of walking the line to
> help finance the Ukranian defense without sending US troops.  But I agree
> that there have been too many wars amounting in the end to too much nothing.
> 
> There are people who say there will be no long-term effect of the Ukranian
> invasion, that Putin will soon die and Russia will fall apart for a while
> and have to be sewn back up by someone new, and that in that process
> Ukraine has a better chance of escapsing than it does today.  Maybe that is
> correct, and waiting would have been a better thing to do.  But the war
> got started and now they're stuck in it, and Putin just becomes more angry
> and resentful every day, listening less to his generals every day.
> --scott


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