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From: "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: nasty link problem with Gfortran and G++ (C++) ???
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:20:49 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0800, baf wrote:

> On 1/10/2025 3:01 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> Hm, OK.   I'm not familiar with how Simply Fortran operates; they do
>> not cooperate with the gfortran team (but rather make money off the
>> work of volunteers). If you have questions regarding teir toolbox,
>> this is best addressed to them.
>> 
> 
> It is not strictly true that the Simply Fortran folks make money off the 
> work of volunteers. They do not charge for the use of gfortran. Anyone 
> can install their software for free, and that installation provides 
> gfortran (and friends) that can be accessed from the command line 
> without any license from Simply Fortran. What they do charge for is 
> their IDE.

I suppose that is one way to look at the situation. OTOH,
Simply Fortran would not exist if gfortran did not exist.
SF's homepage does not even bother to acknowledge that the
Fortran compiler is in fact gfortran.  One does find on the
'Features' page: "Simply Fortran has been designed from the
start with GNU Fortran integration as the primary goal."
Additionally, there is no easily found information concerning
the actual version of GCC that comes with SF.

I suspect that Thomas's point is that the SF developer(s)
have not sent bug reports, patches to fix bugs, engaged
with any of gfortran's main contributors, or even said
"Thank you".  Sure, the GPL does not require such behavior,
but the current lack of interaction appears to be somewhat
discourteous.

-- 
steve