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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go
 wrong?
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:46:23 -0500
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On 1/13/2025 12:41 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 1/12/2025 4:30 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m bit baffled personally that this is an issue? It’s even in the uk
>>> Highway Code I’m not aware of it being changed ie the advice has always
>>> been to ride in the center of the lane, moving left to allow other vehicles
>>> to pass if safe to do so.
>> Well, like me, you've bothered to look into the actual legal aspects and
>> the advice given by legitimate cycling education programs.
>>
>> We have several people here who have not bothered to do that minimal
>> research, because they already "know" everything.
>>
> 
> No I suspect I’m relatively low % of folks who have looked at it, but in
> general it’s the advice other cyclists give and even non cyclists seem to
> mostly do it, ie cultural for want of better word.

I mentioned this here maybe 5 years ago, but: One local guy who was 
pretty well known from his participation in some civic organizations 
lost his wife. He was just a path rider, but he decided to deal with his 
loss by bicycling down to visit his daughter in Florida. Someone told 
him to ask me for advice.

So he visited and we talked. He rode a very upright "comfort bike." I 
think my main piece of advice was that his path riding wasn't sufficient 
training, and that he should be doing some hills, because he couldn't 
reach Florida without climbing serious hills. I'm sure I said something 
about our rights to the road, about taking the lane, etc. but it wasn't 
the biggest part of our conversation.

Anyway, I decided to show up for his official departure from a local 
shopping plaza and ride a bit with him. I was shocked to see that his 
supporters had called in a TV crew. I greeted him, but did my best to 
stay out of the picture.

But we did ride off together, on the busy four lane highway I sometimes 
mention here - one that many bike club members would refuse to ride. He 
planted himself firmly in the middle of the right lane and sailed on 
with a smile on his face. As usual, motorists handled it perfectly with 
no aggression, no complaints. We rode together for maybe 10 or 15 miles, 
long after the road became a two lane with 55 mph speed limits. Then I 
turned back for home, and he rode on to Florida. He made the trip in 
fine shape.


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- Frank Krygowski