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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:17:49 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vm3hrs$1s9ld$2@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vlaskd$cr0l$2@dont-email.me> <vlc68u$k8so$1@dont-email.me> <vldpj7$vlah$7@dont-email.me> <a8b010b748782966268688a38b58fe1a9b4cc087@i2pn2.org> <vlei6e$14nve$1@dont-email.me> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <vlir7p$24c51$1@dont-email.me> <417ff6da-86ee-4b3a-b07a-9c6a8eb31368@att.net> <vllfof$2n0uj$2@dont-email.me> <07258ab9-eee1-4aae-902a-ba39247d5942@att.net> <vlmst2$2vjr0$3@dont-email.me> <1ebbc233d6bab7878b69cae3eda48c7bbfd07f88@i2pn2.org> <vlo5f4$39hil$2@dont-email.me> <4c89380adaad983f24d5d6a75842aaabbd1adced@i2pn2.org> <vloule$3eqsr$1@dont-email.me> <ffffed23878945243684de7f2aa9aaaf29564508@i2pn2.org> <vlrej9$2m5k$1@dont-email.me> <d6ed4797-65e8-4004-853c-f07a37af0c11@att.net> <vls4j6$7v2k$3@dont-email.me> <494bfd3b-3c70-4d8d-9c70-ce917c15fc22@att.net> <vm0okb$16cq0$2@dont-email.me> <bff18686-503a-4b7b-9406-b47796f68b47@att.net> <vm15pj$18v7t$1@dont-email.me> <72142d82-0d71-460a-a1be-cadadf78c048@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:17:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a2825d0366d9c54c3b743da5bb807496"; logging-data="1975981"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18F+eLgAF7XTGhn6GEqtQw6qyGMIucLVF0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GgAT6ruU6/Z+R88cTn4hEY8TB7o= In-Reply-To: <72142d82-0d71-460a-a1be-cadadf78c048@att.net> Content-Language: en-US On 13.01.2025 17:33, Jim Burns wrote: > On 1/12/2025 2:39 PM, WM wrote: >> On 12.01.2025 20:33, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 1/12/2025 10:54 AM, WM wrote: > >>>> No, it depends on completeness. >>> >>> It is completely true >>> that each natural number is a natural number and >>> that only natural numbers are natural numbers. >> >> and that nothing fits between them and ω. > > Yes. Therefore doubling of all natural numbers creates numbers larger than ω. > > ω is first infiniteᵒʳᵈ. > No infiniteᵒʳᵈ is before ω > No finiteᵒʳᵈ is after ω Right. > Regular distances in ⦅0,ω⦆ multiplied by 2 > remain regular distances in ⦅0,ω⦆, not.in ⟦ω,2ω⦆ Doubling of all n deletes the odd numbers but cannot change the number of numbers, therefore creates even numbers. They do not fit below ω. Remember: nothing fits between them and ω. Regards, WM