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On 2025-01-13 3:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 1/13/2025 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Jan 13, 2025 at 9:24:37 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/13/2025 12:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>   On Jan 13, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" 
>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>   We know L.A. Mayor Karen Bass cut $17.6 million from the city's fire
>>>>>   department budget. The progressive mayor wasn't even in L.A. when 
>>>>> the fires
>>>>>   broke out. She was in Ghana on a political junket.
>>>>   She might have been forgiven for being out of town if it had been 
>>>> just a bad
>>>>   coincidence, but the National Weather Service had been issuing 
>>>> warnings of
>>>>   "extreme fire danger" to city officials for several days *prior* 
>>>> to her
>>>>   departure and she decided to leave anyway. Absolute dereliction of 
>>>> duty. If
>>>>   there's a legal mechanism in California for the governor to remove 
>>>> a mayor,
>>>>   Newsom should absolutely do so, but he won't because he has too 
>>>> much himself
>>>>   to answer for in this mess.
>>>>>   The optics couldn't get much worse. Remember how SATURDAY NIGHT 
>>>>> LIVE and
>>>>>   late-night comedians mocked Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas when he was 
>>>>> out of state
>>>>>   in Cancun during a deadly cold weather front in 2021?  It's hard 
>>>>> to forget
>>>>>   given the nonstop jokes on the subject.
>>>>   But notice neither the media nor the late-night jokesters had 
>>>> anything to
>>>> say
>>>>   when, in the middle of a winter weather emergency in California, with
>>>>   thousands of citizens trapped in their homes under 10+ feet of 
>>>> snow (that he
>>>>   and his bald-headed lunatic of a predecessor assured us would 
>>>> never be seen
>>>>   again due to 'climate change'), Newsom suddenly vanished. He could 
>>>> not be
>>>>   located anywhere.
>>>>   But never fear. It turns out he was just in Baja California, 
>>>> Mexico. Newsom
>>>>   was frolicking on the beach in Cabo San Lucas while hundreds of 
>>>> people were
>>>>   snowed in with no food or power in the mountains during a winter snow
>>>>   emergency.
>>>>   Other than the choice of Mexican resort destination, it's exactly 
>>>> the same
>>>>   thing that Cruz did. But with Newsom it was actually worse. As a 
>>>> matter of
>>>>   executive function, it happens to be worse to abandon your 
>>>> constituents in
>>>> the
>>>>   middle of a weather crisis when you are the governor as opposed to 
>>>> a senator
>>>>   who-- unlike a governor-- has no authority or ability to direct 
>>>> personnel
>>>> and
>>>>   manage resources.
>>>>   So Cruz couldn't have actually done anything to help had he stayed 
>>>> but
>>>> Newsom
>>>>   very much could have. Yet Cruz is the one who is vilified by the 
>>>> media while
>>>>   Newsom's failure was all but ignored.
>>>>>   Another possible source of comedy? HBO's REAL TIME WITH BILL 
>>>>> MAHER. The
>>>>>   long-running host has shown a knack for truth-telling regardless 
>>>>> of party
>>>>>   affiliation. He's been a thorn in the Left's side for several 
>>>>> years, mocking
>>>>>   progressives for their extreme culture war positions and woke 
>>>>> overreach.
>>>>>
>>>>>   He's based in L.A. and might skewer pols who have made the problem
>>>>>   exponentially worse. He's also a Climate Change alarmist and 
>>>>> might focus on
>>>>>   that angle, even if there's no evidence climate change played a 
>>>>> role in the
>>>>>   catastrophe.
>>>>   Of course it didn't. There's only so many ways these fires get 
>>>> started.
>>>> Either
>>>>   nature starts them-- almost always via lightning strikes-- or 
>>>> humans start
>>>>   them. Sometimes it's because humans don't maintain the power lines 
>>>> and they
>>>>   fall over during high winds and spark fires, or they're caused by 
>>>> human
>>>>   negligence (a tossed cigarette butt) or arson.
>>>>   There was no lightning when these fires started and they've ruled 
>>>> out downed
>>>>   power lines. That leaves only one option left: someone started the 
>>>> fires,
>>>>   either accidentally or on purpose. It was not fucking 'climate 
>>>> change'.
>>>
>>> Afaik, 'climate change' doesn't start fires, it continues them.
>>
>> California has been known for massive wildfires since long before the 
>> white
>> man ever came to North America. The native tribes have stories of 
>> wildfires
>> spanning what is now the entire West Coast, backed up by scientific 
>> data--
>> tree rings and the like.
>>
>> They make the wildfires we have now look like campfires in comparison but
>> Governor HairGel wants you to believe they're some new phenomenon due to
>> 'climate change' because that gives him an excuse to control your life 
>> and
>> take your money.
>>
>> The L.A. Basin is an arid semi-desert environment. Dry tinder and 
>> underbrush,
>> especially in the fall and winter, is the *normal* state of things 
>> here. Just
>> like years-long droughts are normal here. Wildfires have occurred with
>> regularity going back to before European settlers ever arrived. Yes, 
>> they're
>> more frequent now, but that has nothing to do with 'climate change'. It's
>> because there are now 14 million people living in the area instead of 
>> just a
>> hundred or so. Back then, the fires were started by lightning strikes, 
>> not
>> people. Now they're caused by stupid people doing stupid shit like 
>> smoking in
>> the hills or the government allowing vagrants whacked out on drugs to 
>> cook
>> their food and meth with open flames in the middle of a powder keg or 
>> power
>> companies negligently failing to maintain their infrastructure. None 
>> of which
>> has jack-all to do with 'climate change'. If you have millions of people
>> living in an area with a lot of them doing stupid things, you're going 
>> to get
>> a lot of fires.
>>
>> Anyone who thinks that if we'd all just install more solar panels and 
>> ride our
>> bikes to work, that the state wouldn't be on fire every winter is 
>> completely
>> delusional. And these idiotic media reporters and politicians who keep 
>> saying
>> that the amount of acreage burned in California (e.g., 2.2 million 
>> acres in
>> 2020) is 'record-breaking' and 'unprecedented' are bald-faced liars. It's
>> factually completely untrue. Before the 1800s, California would see 
>> anywhere
>> from 5 to 14 million acres burn EVERY YEAR. That's 12% of the state 
>> burning
>> every year. Before there were any SUVs or 'climate change'. Just as 
>> there were
>> massive droughts in California long before the era of 'climate change'.
>> California had a 500-year drought between 800 and 1300 AD. These are
>> documented scientific facts, but that undermines the Agenda, so we get
>> flat-out lies from politicians claiming this is 'unprecedented', which 
>> goes
>> completely unchallenged by their media lackeys.
>>
>> Excess timber comes out of a forest in only one of two ways. It's either
>> carried out or it burns up. We used to carry it out. It was called 
>> logging. We
>> had healthy forests and a thriving timber economy. Then in the 70s, we 
>> began
>> imposing a shit-ton of environmental laws-- both at the state and federal
>> level-- that have made it all but impossible and wildly unprofitable 
>> to carry
>> out that timber and what we've seen over those decades is increasingly 
>> severe
>> forest fires.
>>
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