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On 1/13/2025 5:13 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2025-01-13 3:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 1/13/2025 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 13, 2025 at 9:24:37 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/13/2025 12:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>   On Jan 13, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" 
>>>>> <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>   We know L.A. Mayor Karen Bass cut $17.6 million from the city's 
>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>   department budget. The progressive mayor wasn't even in L.A. 
>>>>>> when the fires
>>>>>>   broke out. She was in Ghana on a political junket.
>>>>>   She might have been forgiven for being out of town if it had been 
>>>>> just a bad
>>>>>   coincidence, but the National Weather Service had been issuing 
>>>>> warnings of
>>>>>   "extreme fire danger" to city officials for several days *prior* 
>>>>> to her
>>>>>   departure and she decided to leave anyway. Absolute dereliction 
>>>>> of duty. If
>>>>>   there's a legal mechanism in California for the governor to 
>>>>> remove a mayor,
>>>>>   Newsom should absolutely do so, but he won't because he has too 
>>>>> much himself
>>>>>   to answer for in this mess.
>>>>>>   The optics couldn't get much worse. Remember how SATURDAY NIGHT 
>>>>>> LIVE and
>>>>>>   late-night comedians mocked Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas when he was 
>>>>>> out of state
>>>>>>   in Cancun during a deadly cold weather front in 2021?  It's hard 
>>>>>> to forget
>>>>>>   given the nonstop jokes on the subject.
>>>>>   But notice neither the media nor the late-night jokesters had 
>>>>> anything to
>>>>> say
>>>>>   when, in the middle of a winter weather emergency in California, 
>>>>> with
>>>>>   thousands of citizens trapped in their homes under 10+ feet of 
>>>>> snow (that he
>>>>>   and his bald-headed lunatic of a predecessor assured us would 
>>>>> never be seen
>>>>>   again due to 'climate change'), Newsom suddenly vanished. He 
>>>>> could not be
>>>>>   located anywhere.
>>>>>   But never fear. It turns out he was just in Baja California, 
>>>>> Mexico. Newsom
>>>>>   was frolicking on the beach in Cabo San Lucas while hundreds of 
>>>>> people were
>>>>>   snowed in with no food or power in the mountains during a winter 
>>>>> snow
>>>>>   emergency.
>>>>>   Other than the choice of Mexican resort destination, it's exactly 
>>>>> the same
>>>>>   thing that Cruz did. But with Newsom it was actually worse. As a 
>>>>> matter of
>>>>>   executive function, it happens to be worse to abandon your 
>>>>> constituents in
>>>>> the
>>>>>   middle of a weather crisis when you are the governor as opposed 
>>>>> to a senator
>>>>>   who-- unlike a governor-- has no authority or ability to direct 
>>>>> personnel
>>>>> and
>>>>>   manage resources.
>>>>>   So Cruz couldn't have actually done anything to help had he 
>>>>> stayed but
>>>>> Newsom
>>>>>   very much could have. Yet Cruz is the one who is vilified by the 
>>>>> media while
>>>>>   Newsom's failure was all but ignored.
>>>>>>   Another possible source of comedy? HBO's REAL TIME WITH BILL 
>>>>>> MAHER. The
>>>>>>   long-running host has shown a knack for truth-telling regardless 
>>>>>> of party
>>>>>>   affiliation. He's been a thorn in the Left's side for several 
>>>>>> years, mocking
>>>>>>   progressives for their extreme culture war positions and woke 
>>>>>> overreach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   He's based in L.A. and might skewer pols who have made the problem
>>>>>>   exponentially worse. He's also a Climate Change alarmist and 
>>>>>> might focus on
>>>>>>   that angle, even if there's no evidence climate change played a 
>>>>>> role in the
>>>>>>   catastrophe.
>>>>>   Of course it didn't. There's only so many ways these fires get 
>>>>> started.
>>>>> Either
>>>>>   nature starts them-- almost always via lightning strikes-- or 
>>>>> humans start
>>>>>   them. Sometimes it's because humans don't maintain the power 
>>>>> lines and they
>>>>>   fall over during high winds and spark fires, or they're caused by 
>>>>> human
>>>>>   negligence (a tossed cigarette butt) or arson.
>>>>>   There was no lightning when these fires started and they've ruled 
>>>>> out downed
>>>>>   power lines. That leaves only one option left: someone started 
>>>>> the fires,
>>>>>   either accidentally or on purpose. It was not fucking 'climate 
>>>>> change'.
>>>>
>>>> Afaik, 'climate change' doesn't start fires, it continues them.
>>>
>>> California has been known for massive wildfires since long before the 
>>> white
>>> man ever came to North America. The native tribes have stories of 
>>> wildfires
>>> spanning what is now the entire West Coast, backed up by scientific 
>>> data--
>>> tree rings and the like.
>>>
>>> They make the wildfires we have now look like campfires in comparison 
>>> but
>>> Governor HairGel wants you to believe they're some new phenomenon due to
>>> 'climate change' because that gives him an excuse to control your 
>>> life and
>>> take your money.
>>>
>>> The L.A. Basin is an arid semi-desert environment. Dry tinder and 
>>> underbrush,
>>> especially in the fall and winter, is the *normal* state of things 
>>> here. Just
>>> like years-long droughts are normal here. Wildfires have occurred with
>>> regularity going back to before European settlers ever arrived. Yes, 
>>> they're
>>> more frequent now, but that has nothing to do with 'climate change'. 
>>> It's
>>> because there are now 14 million people living in the area instead of 
>>> just a
>>> hundred or so. Back then, the fires were started by lightning 
>>> strikes, not
>>> people. Now they're caused by stupid people doing stupid shit like 
>>> smoking in
>>> the hills or the government allowing vagrants whacked out on drugs to 
>>> cook
>>> their food and meth with open flames in the middle of a powder keg or 
>>> power
>>> companies negligently failing to maintain their infrastructure. None 
>>> of which
>>> has jack-all to do with 'climate change'. If you have millions of people
>>> living in an area with a lot of them doing stupid things, you're 
>>> going to get
>>> a lot of fires.
>>>
>>> Anyone who thinks that if we'd all just install more solar panels and 
>>> ride our
>>> bikes to work, that the state wouldn't be on fire every winter is 
>>> completely
>>> delusional. And these idiotic media reporters and politicians who 
>>> keep saying
>>> that the amount of acreage burned in California (e.g., 2.2 million 
>>> acres in
>>> 2020) is 'record-breaking' and 'unprecedented' are bald-faced liars. 
>>> It's
>>> factually completely untrue. Before the 1800s, California would see 
>>> anywhere
>>> from 5 to 14 million acres burn EVERY YEAR. That's 12% of the state 
>>> burning
>>> every year. Before there were any SUVs or 'climate change'. Just as 
>>> there were
>>> massive droughts in California long before the era of 'climate change'.
>>> California had a 500-year drought between 800 and 1300 AD. These are
>>> documented scientific facts, but that undermines the Agenda, so we get
>>> flat-out lies from politicians claiming this is 'unprecedented', 
>>> which goes
>>> completely unchallenged by their media lackeys.
>>>
>>> Excess timber comes out of a forest in only one of two ways. It's either
>>> carried out or it burns up. We used to carry it out. It was called 
>>> logging. We
>>> had healthy forests and a thriving timber economy. Then in the 70s, 
>>> we began
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