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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Second California child infected with H5N1
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 16:01:05 -0600
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On 1/13/2025 2:21 PM, RonO wrote:
> https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/san-francisco- 
> reports-h5n1-avian-flu-child
> 
> They are not saying whether it is the dairy virus, but conjunctivitis is 
> the primary symptom of dairy virus infection.  They do not know how the 
> child was infected, but since it is an eye infection my first guess is 
> that the child was infected by a dairy worker contact.  The first child 
> infected by the dairy virus had a gut infection that likely came from 
> ingesting pasteurized milk (they claim the source of infection is 
> unknown, but the childs only contact with dairy cattle was the milk they 
> drank).  This child doesn't have a gut infection, and it is likely that 
> cows have been infected by infected dairy workers primarily shedding 
> virus from their eyes.  All of this has been denied by the USDA and CDC 
> even though they know that dairy workers are spreading the virus, and 
> that infected dairy workers shed live virus.
> 
> More commercial poultry flocks are going down.
> 
> Still no results from the USDA bulk milk tank testing, and the CDC's 
> claims to have started testing dairy workers over a month ago.  As sad 
> as it may be the CDC claimed that one of the reasons that they needed to 
> test the dairy workers (they found out that 7 to 10% of them were likely 
> getting infected) was to treat the infected with anti-virals to reduce 
> virus production and prevent the evolution of the virus into one more 
> likely to infect humans.  They haven't started testing, as far as I 
> know.  The dairy workers infected when they made the annoucement over a 
> month ago have already recovered from the infection by now.  How may 
> dairy worker have recovered in the time that they have been doing 
> nothing since the start of the infection in March?
> 
> Ron Okimoto
> 

A lot of cats have  been determined to be infected with H5N1.  All have 
died.  It is scary that it becomes a neurological infection in cats that 
eat raw pet food or that drank the recalled raw milk.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/h5n1-confirmed-more-cats-probe-raw-pet-food-widens

The USDA isn't saying which virus is infecting the cats, but they do 
have the information on their mammal infection page.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals

All the California cats except the last two (sampled Dec 26) in Los 
Angeles have had the dairy virus.  The two that are only claimed to have 
had the EA virus (East Asian H5N1) either haven't been confirmed to have 
the dairy virus or they may have another strain.  If they have another 
strain they need to figure out why the cats died, and how they were 
infected.

The USDA needs to start differentiating the virus strains because the 
dairy virus comes from dairy products including dairy cow carcasses, 
while other virus may be due to wild bird infections.

Ron Okimoto