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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 23:57:57 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 12 Message-ID: <vm6tm4$2klvb$2@dont-email.me> References: <vjec09$1jpju$1@news.xmission.com> <vjeh88$23spl$1@dont-email.me> <vjfob3$2vfl9$4@dont-email.me> <vm6hd3$3dgbv$1@paganini.bofh.team> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:57:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4800b6bd52c76150090d92dd279d2d15"; logging-data="2775019"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+7Bd7zfeSwAKz5l9UGusHr" User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Chasiv Yar; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:plGWa9fQOx+R/kCSYc19RJwQbFA= Bytes: 1704 On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:28:21 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: > And once something gets wide adpotion compatibility concerns frequently > mean that intrinsically better ideas have no chance. Open Source projects seem less hidebound by that. Look at the way things have evolved, with old “traditional” *nix ideas being supplanted by new ones: netstat/ifconfig by iproute2, X11 by Wayland, various hacky audio things by first PulseAudio and then PipeWire, sysvinit by systemd (and other options) etc. Just goes to show, there is no “vendor lock-in” in the Open Source world.