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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 12:33:26 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <vm8rh6$31mgm$1@dont-email.me> References: <1VcgP.54962$XfF8.39289@fx04.iad> <vm1itg$1f1ma$3@dont-email.me> <vm40cl$21e8l$2@dont-email.me> <6h1bojt7kdp4d5euq0f78rtuvqpg7edc3e@4ax.com> <vm86er$2u8jo$1@dont-email.me> <cqlfoj93e6jvua3is08kbm6f9p32h8cl4a@4ax.com> <vm8o1d$313ov$1@dont-email.me> <luq81qFfc8fU2@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:33:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8916b7bc8cb47b987b56cbbcb834f27d"; logging-data="3201558"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18K64z3qo00fF5rN+jn2l+9kC3Mt6lT9/Y=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:u6/h3KVFh6VJ2KOLLqqmCrJ+Wjw= In-Reply-To: <luq81qFfc8fU2@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3808 On 1/15/25 12:02 PM, vallor wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:33:48 -0500, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> > wrote in <vm8o1d$313ov$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On 1/15/25 10:46 AM, Joel wrote: >>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>> >>>> macOS is free. Just needs a $600 mac to run it on. >>> >>> Windows Home preinstalled on volume-produced gear is virtually free, >>> self-installed Linux completely free, but yes that "$600" you cite >>> isn't cheap for the device it buys. That OS upgrades are free is just >>> to incentivize buying/using an Apple device. >>> >>> >> Where said "isn't cheap" $600 is ~half what Joel's already spent... >> >> ...or for when the Lady protests too much, after deducting off his >> alleged $200 mistake of a second Windows OS license, roughly 50% less >> ($600 vs ($1150 - $200 = $950). > > Having played the "buy a mac mini to get MacOS" game, I can tell > you that I was very disappointed. IMO the mini had historically been Apple's product to promote desktop customers to migrate from Windows, but its shortcomings have centered around how 90% of the market ignored it because it wasn't a laptop, and the other 10% are tower fetish geeks who were offended because it couldn't easily address every possible niche/corner use case. > The Mac Studio we have now is a few steps up, but it's not worth > what we paid for it. The Studio's now two months from being 3 years old, and pretty much all its gotten to date has been a CPU bump. It was envisioned as the being a midpoint between the mini & Mac Pro, effectively a replacement for the iMac Pro, whose MSRP started at $5K. > It's clunky, and the security policies on > it are one-offs. It's a UNIX system, but they've bolted on extras > that are downright unfriendly. Just which security policies are so constraining? Likewise, are these so-called 'unfriendly' elements something which affects the Pareto Principle 80% use case, or is it more akin to a niche/corner use case? > Meanwhile Mrs. vallor's new workstation is still waiting in the wings; > turns out, she expanded the scope of "make a space on her desk" > into "re-organize her office". ;) > > fu2: cola Good for her. Let me know if you're going to then be selling the Studio, as I'd not mind picking up another one at the right specs/price. -hh