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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!" Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:21:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vm8uas$3277e$2@dont-email.me> References: <vlucc7$no2f$1@dont-email.me> <lug4mgFpjv6U1@mid.individual.net> <vm451d$22j2f$1@dont-email.me> <vm4i4q$24jb4$1@dont-email.me> <vm6t2c$2kn8p$1@dont-email.me> <ravdojdguubeiu4172678s3f55pnjbck1c@4ax.com> <vm8lhp$30f7a$2@dont-email.me> <hRRhP.812141$oR74.128325@fx16.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:21:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4ce7cce8b64bae96a789fc70cba564a7"; logging-data="3218670"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/eolJ1audtPCfYrsn3xSAcKmVx+AIr6+M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JKUmdpBcRntCxrTqTv1UHNdJqwo= In-Reply-To: <hRRhP.812141$oR74.128325@fx16.iad> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2788 On 1/15/2025 12:01 PM, cyclintom wrote: > On Wed Jan 15 10:51:19 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 1/14/2025 7:30 PM, John B. wrote: >>> >>> One thing that it is important to remember is that in a conflict >>> between a bicycle and a auto the auto nearly always wins :-( >>> There is even a poem, dating from the early 1900's: >>> >>> Here lies the body Of William Jay, >>> Who died maintaining His right of way. >>> He was in the right As he sped along, >>> But he's just as dead As if he'd been wrong. >> >> It's a cute little poem, but like "always pretend you're invisible," its >> useless as practical advice for a bicyclist. >> >> A bicyclist who never used his right of way would be unable to >> practically ride anywhere except on totally isolated bike paths. > > You are very confusing Frank. We have an entire country in which the overwhelming majority of bicyclists claim that bicycle lane make cycling a great deal more safe. And yet you continue to say otherwise and believe that taking the lane is safer than never being in the way. Tom, you're off on a tangent again. What I wrote above had little or nothing to do with whether a bike lane makes cycling safer. If you were to pretend you were invisible, or if you never trusted any motorist to respect your right of way, you'd have to jump off your bike any time a motor vehicle might cross your path. -- - Frank Krygowski