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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:34:29 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vm8v3o$3277e$4@dont-email.me> References: <vlovcv$3evv6$1@dont-email.me> <lualmvFt53qU1@mid.individual.net> <IcShP.421244$2xE6.292720@fx18.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:34:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4ce7cce8b64bae96a789fc70cba564a7"; logging-data="3218670"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+o0AnsbV2gHfqJsCRT7mqBMCer9QYG8UI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:EK2KLyGULn3NXLUV3aGBr+B8oaI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <IcShP.421244$2xE6.292720@fx18.iad> Bytes: 2619 On 1/15/2025 12:26 PM, cyclintom wrote: > On Thu Jan 9 19:17:51 2025 Roger Merriman wrote: >> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> "Protected" bike lane hazard lawsuit: >>> >>> https://komonews.com/news/local/cyclist-green-lake-neighborhood-king-county-superior-court-aviv-litov-26-years-old-bike-lanes-life-altering-injuries-strittmatter-firm-configuration-tesla >>> >> I?m unconvinced by such designs seems asking for trouble and and attempting >> to please everyone ie compromise the cycleway for car parking, I?m guessing >> nice wide junction with no attempt to slow cars down let alone control it? >> >> Roger Merriman > > As a cyclist you don't have automatic right-of-way and are responsible to watch for idiots. ? I don't know what you mean by "_automatic_ right of way" but according to typical state laws, cyclists do have a right to use the road, and other road users must respect that. The phrase "right of way" does not necessarily occur in state laws. It's not present in Ohio laws, AFAIK. But detail text of laws makes it clear that in many instances - at stop signs, before pulling out of a driveway, etc. - vehicle operators must yield to other vehicles or other traffic. That includes bicycles; therefore, bicyclists do have what's colloquially called "right of way." Pulling out directly in front of a moving bicyclists and causing him to crash will (or should) get you a ticket. -- - Frank Krygowski