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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:06:20 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vm9bgt$34pie$1@dont-email.me> References: <vlpb2u$3h575$2@dont-email.me> <vm4084$21l8b$2@dont-email.me> <vm4hs2$4q7$1@panix2.panix.com> <vm4qmk$29grr$1@dont-email.me> <vm8hhc$gne$1@panix2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:06:22 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d5148355ec797ab5202c660277d406aa"; logging-data="3302990"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+0bw2ZIh5PmPesPmAtpB/F2yTKnY5KVds=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3i1jjaXELQNGZ5EnS0jwYcHhp64= In-Reply-To: <vm8hhc$gne$1@panix2.panix.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2815 On 1/15/2025 8:42 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Go watch the new Napoleon movie. Towards the end of his career, >> Napoleon takes 650,000 French and German troops to Russia, intent on >> taking Moscow. When he gets to Moscow, no one is there and it is >> torched while they are in it. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia > > Everything else aside, is the movie good? I have seen Abel Gance's movie > and read Tolstoy's discussion from the other side. > >> My point is that the Russians have been willing to go to extreme lengths >> to fight off invaders. And at this point, they consider Ukraine to be a >> extended part of Russia. > > This is absolutely correct, but it doesn't change what the right thing > to do is. And because it's absolutely correct, it means any capitulation > now is just going to kick the can down the road a bit, which the Ukranians > know perfectly well. Because the Russian attitude won't change. > > I don't think kicking the can down the road is a ever a good strategy, > although it sort of worked for the Germans at the "end" of WWI. Kind of. > > Dealing with monarchies is a weird thing, because it comes down entirely > to figuring out what the monarch is thinking, which isn't always what he > is saying either domestically or to the foreign press. Whatever happened > to Kremlinologists and Sovietologists anyway? > --scott I enjoyed the new Napoleon movie and relearned a lot of European history. The battle scenes were amazing. Lynn