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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Klaus Kragelund <klauskvik@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: All VM-based development Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:18:20 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vm9c7c$34v1g$1@dont-email.me> References: <vlq25f$3l4rh$2@dont-email.me> <vlq961$3q2a6$1@dont-email.me> <vlqkln$3tbjk$4@dont-email.me> <vlqlhv$3tegj$1@dont-email.me> <vlqnla$3tq6t$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:18:21 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b9882f744d1494ecca8a8e6b45adae85"; logging-data="3308592"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ATaUX5BQVc7RaUJFIVykqP7gzPEWIZq0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CFKEe2WXwOSeevH8IbPWyj90IXA= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vlqnla$3tq6t$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3198 On 10-01-2025 10:01, Don Y wrote: > On 1/10/2025 1:25 AM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote: >> Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >>> On 1/9/2025 9:54 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote: >>>> Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone tried moving entirely to VM-based systems for >>>>> their (hardware/software/documentation) development efforts? >>>>> Admittedly, there is a bit of a performance penalty vs. >>>>> native iron. But, it could simplify things by allowing >>>>> fewer physical hosts and shifting the burden to a bigger >>>>> VM store (just more disk space -- which you'd already have >>>>> for physical hosts!) >>>> >>>> Ever tried to run Altium Designer PCB Editor in a VM? >>>> >>>> Please let us know when you succeed and explain how you did it. >>> >>> What problems are you having? Under which VM environment? >> >> Did you try it under ANY VM environment? Had it worked in ANY VM? Please >> share what environment it was. > > *YOU* are the one who has (apparently) attempted to "try it" and > met with failure. I've asked you to explain how that failure > manifested and what environment you were using. > > Is that too much to ask? The point of my post was to elicit > SPECIFIC problems folks have had with this approach. I can > then reevaluate how I might approach the issue. > > E.g., I am pretty sure my SDI video will be "tricky" to keep > working in such an environment; so, easier to opt to preserve > that entire workstation "as is" than to hope someone else > *might* have such a card and MIGHT have tried using it in a > particular VM environment. > >> That is just one thing that doesn't even access some special hardware. >> Just >> a mere CAD, duh... > > I looked into it a month ago since I got a new PC. My intention was to use it for the programs that could be updated often (compilers, maybe Altium/Orcad) Seems any VM and container takes significant resources (both CPU load, but more important memory). So I did not go through with it.