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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: PING Britain and Canadia: This is How You Do Free Speech
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 22:50:32 -0000 (UTC)
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On Jan 15, 2025 at 1:29:02 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83L6vZx6OuA
> 
> Sep 25, 2021
> 
> Earlier video
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39OMhmK7EM
> 
> Apr 19, 2020
> 
>> A teen girl in Wisconsin posted a pic on Instagram from a hospital in 2020 in
>> the midst of the Wuhan Flu hysteria, with the caption, "Winning the fight
>> with
>> COVID-19."
> 
>> The sheriff's department showed up at her home and threatened to arrest her
>> and charge her with disorderly conduct if she didn't remove the post saying
>> she had the virus.
> 
> From the earlier video, the girl and her parents were all threatened
> with arrest for disorderly conduct.
> 
> Huh. The patrol sergeant who made the threats was sued in his personal
> capacity. I didn't know that was a thing.
> 
>> (It's unclear from the reporting why in the hell the cops cared whether she
>> had the virus or not or if she was telling the world via Instagram that she
>> had it.)
> 
> It's explained in the earlier video. She had travelled to Disney World
> with her bandmates, right before both Florida and Wisconsin governors
> declared public health emergencies, amd had to come home early. She
> thought she had symptoms -- and doctors agreed -- but testing was lousy
> and she was never tested during the window in which she'd have showed
> positive. Nevertheless, she was diagnosed based on symptoms.
> 
> Her mother informed the band leader to tell the other parents by leaving
> a message on voicemail. Weeks later, the principal spoke to the mother.
> Again she informed the principal. There was no followup. It was the
> school superintendant who complained to the sheriff who, instead of
> telling the superintendant NOT to harass the student because HE was
> derilict in his duty to notify parents of the other children who were
> expowe, sent the patrol sergeant to her door.
> 
> In the first video, Lehto was pissed that the attorney had lied to
> reporters claiming no one was threatened with arrest even though the
> police sergeant wrote that he had threatened to make arrests in his very
> own police report.
> 
> The sheriff wanted the posts removed as there were no confirmed cases in
> the county at the time. Wow. Another coverup.
> 
> Remind me again why public officials' embarassment over something or
> other trumps the liberty to speak freely and publish, particularly when
> the speaker/publisher is telling the truth?
> 
> The father offered to show the police sergeant the doctor's findings and
> medical order but the sergeant stated that he wasn't there to
> investigate, merely to carry out his sheriff's instructions.
> 
> The father let the girl make the decision to take the offending post
> down herself. She took it down as her father had been threatened with
> arrest.
> 
> Subsequently a different school administrator sent out a mass message
> calling her disease "a rumor" and stating there's no truth that anyone
> had been exposed to COVID whilst on the trip. Way to expose the school
> district to liability... 
> 
>> The U.S. District Court ruled in summary judgment (i.e., the facts stipulated
>> to by both parties so clearly showed a violation of the 1st Amendment by the
>> government that a trial was unnecessary) that the government committed a
>> bright line violation of the girl's right to free speech.
> 
>> The judge wrote in his order, "The 1st Amendment is not a game setting for
>> the
>> government to toggle off and on. It applies in times of tranquility and times
>> of strife." Guaranteed rights cannot be dispatched by the government under
>> the
>> guise of emergency, and furthermore, law enforcement has no business trying
>> to
>> regulate the social media posts of local teenagers.
> 
> Nice quote
> 
>> (This would be surprising news to FPP, who at the time was vociferously
>> arguing here on RAT that since the pandemic was an 'emergency', the
>> government
>> could suspend whatever parts of the Constitution it liked.)
> 
>> So while the UK and Canadia are busy sending cops to people's homes to arrest
>> them for online posts with the government's endorsement and enthusiastic
>> participation, here in America, the cops get yanked back by their leash when
>> they try and do that fascist shit.
> 
> I'm appalled that this was taken to court. Couldn't the sheriff have
> just... apologized? What a huge waste of the taxpayers' money. Did the
> plaintiff at least get lawyers fees?

I'm sure all court costs and attorneys' fees were part of the nominal damages
awarded by the court.