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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: smart plugs??? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:33:12 +0000 Organization: Scott family Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vmajoo$3eg41$1@dont-email.me> References: <vm8nvf$312bv$1@dont-email.me> <vm95vu$33jb9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:33:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f5c0be48a81ba5e4cb6c8cc330cb45e8"; logging-data="3620993"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18RnOCu9tpYh+9Pjjm+4iFxA9J+O5pdpuo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iGF4vwswg2Q9pMXwTXNEJrmO8/Y= In-Reply-To: <vm95vu$33jb9$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2531 On 15/01/2025 20:31, Pancho wrote: > I think you have to be careful that they are not controlled by a cloud > service. If you have a cloud service you need a working wan connection > and you are exposed to the cloud service provider disappearing. (Thanks to all for replying) This is the rub. tp-link clearly /want/ the consumer to use their "cloud" service - which is usually just a fancy codeword for 'we want your data'. There's no actual /need/ that I can see in this case. I've found python modules for actually running the thing - but apparently the device's initial setup still needs tp-link's cloud services. And the problem there is my phone and hudl are ancient so tp-link's code won't install - and when I try to install it on my wife's phone, it wants me to enable in-app purchases. WHY? It's totally unnecessary. All I want to do is set up a device I've already purchased. (And it's not going to happen: I avoid in-app purchase software like the plague, and I'm not about to set up something like that on a borrowed phone anyway.) Looks like Argos can have their device returned, although I doubt anyone there will have the nous to understand the issues. (FWIW I assumed there'd be a web interface to set it up, with their app as a convenience wrapper for that. But no; it looks as though they use BT for initial device discovery and tcp for actual use. Seems madly complex to me.) -- Mike Scott Harlow, England