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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: smart plugs??? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:36:41 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vmanfp$3f251$6@dont-email.me> References: <vm8nvf$312bv$1@dont-email.me> <vm95vu$33jb9$1@dont-email.me> <vmajoo$3eg41$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 11:36:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1a7a5cff39e98a5f7b268f4906870c08"; logging-data="3639457"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19KOLEJtri+lIzQfaGmz8lhie7DUFcdOfg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:9sH8Cjloiyy+XLWC1f7xAsjxozY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vmajoo$3eg41$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2553 On 16/01/2025 09:33, Mike Scott wrote: > On 15/01/2025 20:31, Pancho wrote: >> I think you have to be careful that they are not controlled by a cloud >> service. If you have a cloud service you need a working wan connection >> and you are exposed to the cloud service provider disappearing. > > (Thanks to all for replying) > > This is the rub. tp-link clearly /want/ the consumer to use their > "cloud" service - which is usually just a fancy codeword for 'we want > your data'. There's no actual /need/ that I can see in this case. > Actually there is. It is the simple way to solve 'remote access' to your 'behind NAS' network connected gadgets Now *we* can organise that because we are geeks, but te average coinsumer? Doan mak me larf! -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus