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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Current mirror version of the lowish distortion 1kHz sine wave osillator Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:51:57 -0500 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vmb6ed$d75$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vm89vp$2ulja$1@dont-email.me> <vm8u2l$pns$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <20250115a@crcomp.net> <vm95g6$2682$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vm9tod$37i55$1@dont-email.me> <vm9v61$27sf$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vmadei$3dim0$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="13541"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:XtzyWW359Qqs3jLb5w9SjuPdyHY= sha256:SIkT8H/wepqlIlTKRqjU8X80XhtLC2JCWRQHq0JASpU= sha1:Yc4BRW/2xBWbughvuFj1JpgcZ6Q= sha256:A5ilo+ANegSJ/8lISKlWgXQ8Ciz77MY719s8ZPtlLcY= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Bytes: 4235 "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vmadei$3dim0$1@dont-email.me... > On 16/01/2025 2:41 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vm9tod$37i55$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 16/01/2025 7:23 am, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>> "Don" <g@crcomp.net> wrote in message news:20250115a@crcomp.net... >>>>> Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>> This just reworks my circuit to use a controllable asymmetric current mirror instead of the FET for gain control. I take the >>>>>>> feedback from the full wave rectifier and switch every half-cycle to reconstruct a variable amplitude sine wave to control >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> output amplitude. It does use a lot of components, but it strikes me as fairly comprehensible. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> First I corrected the usual line wrap issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the latest LTSpice (24.1.0) it took me a good hour or two to find out why I was getting strange netlist errors for all the >>>>>> opamps >>>>>> in the circuit. >>>>>> >>>>>> This turned out to be .ENDS in the BAS70L model. Remove .ENDS and the issues go away. >>>>>> >>>>>> So this is the circuit I'm simulating in 24.1.0 with no component updates available. >>>>>> I'm expecting it to take 2 hours to complete. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your tip to wait 2 hours for results. For what it's worth, >>>>> Bill's original LTSpice source worked for me "as is." >>>> >>>> It did for me too, but because it looked like simulation time would be long I moved it to another machine I use over remote >>>> desktop. >>>> On that machine LTSpice asked if I'd like the latest version so I upgraded to 24.1.0. >>>> After the upgrade I got very strange netlist errors which didn't mention BAS70L and it took a while to figure out the cause. >>>> >>>> I'm now revising the simulation time to a minimum of 4 days for 10 seconds. >>>> 24.1.0 seems to be faster. >>> >>> My computer seems to be faster. It mostly simulates at about 25msec/sec for me so I get my 10 seconds in about seven minutes of >>> real time. There are spots early in the process where it slows down, but not for long. >> >> The Lenovo core i7 3.6GHz with SSD I'm running it on hasn't gone above 30us/s. >> If your computer is 1000 times faster I'd like to have one, otherwise there's another explanation somewhere. > > My computer uses an i5-3470 CPU running at 3.20GHz. It's more than ten years old. LTSpice uses my SSD card which isn't original, > so your hardware ought to be even faster. So there's some reason I don't yet understand why my simulation of the same circuit is a lot slower. Simulation of the 120dB circuit I posted some time ago completes in minutes on either 24.1.0 or earlier versions. > > <snip> > > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney > > >