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From: Rich <rich@example.invalid>
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 20:07:53 -0000 (UTC)
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In comp.os.linux.misc D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 16/01/2025 09:33, Mike Scott wrote:
>>> On 15/01/2025 20:31, Pancho wrote:
>>>> I think you have to be careful that they are not controlled by a 
>>>> cloud service.  If you have a cloud service you need a working wan 
>>>> connection and you are exposed to the cloud service provider 
>>>> disappearing.
>>> 
>>> (Thanks to all for replying)
>>> 
>>> This is the rub.  tp-link clearly /want/ the consumer to use their 
>>> "cloud" service - which is usually just a fancy codeword for 'we 
>>> want your data'.  There's no actual /need/ that I can see in this 
>>> case.
>>> 
>> Actually there is.
>>
>> It is the simple way to solve 'remote access' to your 'behind NAS' 
>> network connected gadgets
>>
>> Now *we* can organise that because we are geeks, but te average 
>> coinsumer?  Doan mak me larf!
> 
> I use tor to give me a globally unique name where I can access my 
> stuff behind NAT as a Tor hidden service.

99.1% of the total users would be incapable of achieving what you are 
doing with Tor, even if given infinite time to set it all up.