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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: Cult of Unix Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:48:52 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vmbrbq$3ln7i$1@dont-email.me> References: <1VcgP.54962$XfF8.39289@fx04.iad> <vm1itg$1f1ma$3@dont-email.me> <vm40cl$21e8l$2@dont-email.me> <6h1bojt7kdp4d5euq0f78rtuvqpg7edc3e@4ax.com> <HHghP.135123$5c34.129668@fx47.iad> <la6bojl7t4686ll2teomlj0ig70ma8o8c8@4ax.com> <Q3hhP.45732$nlJ1.37298@fx41.iad> <ru7bojpl0j6ot182uuhhvrakcflqsadi30@4ax.com> <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me> <luodsdF6geaU1@mid.individual.net> <vm755l$2lqjk$1@dont-email.me> <vma3u7$3cdmt$1@dont-email.me> <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me> <lusp13Frb66U1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:49:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="266782b1a94525e31df3d2746ae741fe"; logging-data="3857650"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+X6OYjEq1t6ZCCa6tP26TpQbKQLPSle1g=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.21 Cancel-Lock: sha1:J2qIe7p9GjoDdeowpIga/QoU+98= In-Reply-To: <lusp13Frb66U1@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 3659 vallor wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in > <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote: >>> >>>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ... >>> >>> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk >>> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux >>> systems. >>> >>> >> With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means >> when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I >> can restore it to a brand new hard drive, >> and it boots as if nothing had happened. >> >> As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one >> imaging tool does everything for me. >> >> The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed >> up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup >> image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up >> 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB. >> And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file, >> there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all >> in a single file. >> >> Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file >> system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw >> a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that >> back on a restore. >> >> Details and automation, are the key to push-button success. >> >> Paul > > I'm sure Macrium Reflect is a fine bit of software, but I wonder > about the wisdom of imaging a mounted partition. I think the only > way to do that safely would be to boot to a USB stick -- that way, > you aren't trying to image mounted filesystems. > It works just fine on a running windows system. It uses Volume shadow service. I'm pretty sure most other backup software can also work while windows is running.