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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: smart plugs??? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:42:09 +0000 Organization: Scott family Lines: 30 Message-ID: <vme191$4c4v$1@dont-email.me> References: <vm8nvf$312bv$1@dont-email.me> <vm95vu$33jb9$1@dont-email.me> <vmajoo$3eg41$1@dont-email.me> <vmanfp$3f251$6@dont-email.me> <70892435-a326-11bb-0e95-cde8e098caa1@example.net> <vmboup$3l2jo$3@dont-email.me> <vmbrbj$3khlt$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:42:09 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d70d86b7c542649296dbe0c1b331c2ba"; logging-data="143519"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zAQqqtBvjtjUWIp1DeGKOPX3yxPqvuCQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bnZYdGa4gTYCRbzuX8CnNHiQbf4= In-Reply-To: <vmbrbj$3khlt$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2203 On 16/01/2025 20:48, Phillip wrote: > I don't disagree that most users are not likely to be able to set up > complex things, but realistically, companies should always make it > possible to bypass their cloud service. The ruse is "people are too > stupid to do this" as an excuse for cloud services being obligatory. > Even though, they actually aren't. Just give users the option to bypass ...... > > Offer users the option, if they want it. But never force it or make it ...... > > This is how it should be. And for users that want all that cloud stuff, > it can be optional available to them. > > Anyone that thinks these things should be forced is just perpetuating an > abusive system or just lacks knowledge on how these things work. (OP) +1. With the added note that control of all these cloud-based gizmos is probably located in China. Perhaps not the best of ideas in the current climate. -- Mike Scott Harlow, England