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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Michigan "bird flu"
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:33:02 -0600
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https://theconversation.com/bird-flu-flares-up-again-in-michigan-poultry-an-infectious-disease-expert-explains-the-risk-to-humans-chickens-cows-and-other-animals-233061

They have H5N1 in poultry flocks in Michigan again.  Like other recent 
cases they are not saying if it is the dairy flu or not.

Michigan was one of the first states infected by the Dairy flu, and this 
sounds like a second round of infection.  If Michigan was like 
California (they never started testing their herds to find out) the 
dairy virus likely burned through the Michigan dairies after only 2 or 3 
months.  They may have been virus free (all the infected herds should 
have recovered) for more than 3 months.

They aren't reporting more infected herds (the virus has likely mutated 
enough to start reinfecting dairy herds) but a lot of commercial poultry 
farms have gone down with H5N1.  The first of the 5 commercial flocks 
was reported Dec 16th so they should know if it is the dairy virus 
coming back, but they are suppressing that information.  So many 
commercial flocks indicate that it is the dairy virus and that they are 
getting infected by nearby dairies.  Commercial flocks are in enclosed 
buildings and it is rare to have them infected by wild birds, and to 
have 5 flocks go down in a month indicates that infected dairy workers 
are again spreading the virus to poultry farms.

None of this is being admitted too, just as they are suppressing the 
information of what virus genotype infected the chickens.  This 
suppression started in December when the poultry flock in Oregon went 
down and the cats in Washington, Oregon, and California got sick from 
raw milk and pet food indicating that the dairy virus had gotten into 
the meat supply, so they stopped identifying what virus infected the 
cats and poultry.  The cats that drank raw milk obviously had the dairy 
virus, but the house cats and Big cats at the sanctuary got infected by 
the meat that they were feeding the animals.  Instead of admit that the 
dairy virus had gotten into the meat supply they stopped identifying the 
virus.

It is a stupid thing to do, what was needed was to stop any dairy cattle 
from being processed for meat until they had been tested.  What would be 
worse is if beef cattle have gotten infected in feed lots in those states.

The lack of proper response is just a continuation of how poorly the 
whole dairy epidemic has been dealt with.  The information should not be 
suppressed, but dealt with properly.  If it is the dairy virus in 
Michigan they should be testing the dairy herds in all those counties 
with infected poultry flocks.  If it is the genotype D1.1 from wild 
birds they need to contact the backyard poultry keepers and inform them 
of the risks and what they should do if their birds start to exhibit 
avian flu symptoms.

If it was the dairy virus in pet food they needed to determine if the 
source was dairy cattle or beef cattle.  The dairy virus is mainly a 
mammary gland infection in dairy cattle, but severe cases have gut 
infections that can obviously be passed to beef cattle.  Feed lots would 
be subject to infection by infected dairy workers also working at the 
cattle feed lot.

Ron Okimoto