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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:12:05 -0500
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On 1/17/2025 2:01 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/17/2025 11:34 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 1/17/2025 11:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2025 10:55 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2025 11:30 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:07:10 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest a test. Put Mr. Tricycle out in the wilderness all alone. I
>>>>>> predict he won't better himself or his situation. In fact, I 
>>>>>> predict he
>>>>>> won't survive long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, human beings working cooperatively have built entire 
>>>>>> civilizations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your argument sounds so logical... until one actually work with
>>>>> primitive people, the ones the trike man is talking about. And yes I
>>>>> have worked with this sort of people. In one case we had to call in
>>>>> the Indonesian military to stop a "war" between two villagers over who
>>>>> would keep a worn out plastic tarpaulin. Hardly an example of
>>>>> "cooperatively".
>>>>
>>>> Of course there have always been wars - although I note you were 
>>>> honest enough to put "war" in quotes. When two villagers fight it's 
>>>> not a war.
>>>>
>>>> The term "war" when correctly used implies cooperation. Each army 
>>>> cooperates within itself.
>>>>
>>>> The oh-so-proud rugged individualists might try attacking an army to 
>>>> see whether individualism beats cooperation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like at Lexington perhaps?
>>
>> The colonists certainly cooperated among themselves, no?
>>
>> Your counterargument needs to be one man who took on an army and won.
>>
>>
> 
> Hastily assembled self sufficient volunteers against the #1 world power 
> are not enough for you? Even in a famous victory with continuing 
> political import?
> 
> One man vs Army? We do not like to discuss Major Hassan.
> 

IT doesn't take much organization to organize an ambush. Yes, the 
colonialists were in fact organized, was it hastily planned? yes, was is 
a bunch of individualists randomly opening fire? certainly not.

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