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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:03:47 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vmek44$87s5$2@dont-email.me> References: <7ORhP.796214$DYF8.668936@fx14.iad> <c71gojd4tdvlc125jqm3lvk53a22rs62hk@4ax.com> <vm944i$33bk6$1@dont-email.me> <vm9g32$35ll5$2@dont-email.me> <vm9h7s$35fip$2@dont-email.me> <vm9qro$371vt$6@dont-email.me> <mhqhojhvcvs8b16669qs0g4tqseqv8ai3c@4ax.com> <bpthoj1ttn0sfcgi8nas3m1ecp8k11t7ua@4ax.com> <lusc12Fq2paU1@mid.individual.net> <vr6iojh2c0g0i1n1mkbdb1uqf7qto3l0bq@4ax.com> <vmbc6o$3iko8$6@dont-email.me> <vmbfjv$3jg90$1@dont-email.me> <vmblcu$3ke7f$2@dont-email.me> <m6kjoj15n00g3rqv9dv5763u41c5tfkvi0@4ax.com> <vme22l$49l6$4@dont-email.me> <vme28m$4flp$2@dont-email.me> <vme4bq$49l6$10@dont-email.me> <vme9df$5lfv$3@dont-email.me> <vmeh35$7c28$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 23:03:48 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="098b8b6dfd60e7a497eae152f2fb7f65"; logging-data="270213"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2Qqe5585Eny6SrtgeIqAqwUVDhm18ED4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:b7XbRT6WHcY5FBn/0s8KqNzBrv0= In-Reply-To: <vmeh35$7c28$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2925 On 1/17/2025 4:12 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 1/17/2025 2:01 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 1/17/2025 11:34 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> >>>> Like at Lexington perhaps? >>> >>> The colonists certainly cooperated among themselves, no? >>> >>> Your counterargument needs to be one man who took on an army and won. >>> >>> >> >> Hastily assembled self sufficient volunteers against the #1 world >> power are not enough for you? Even in a famous victory with continuing >> political import? >> >> One man vs Army? We do not like to discuss Major Hassan. >> > > IT doesn't take much organization to organize an ambush. Yes, the > colonialists were in fact organized, was it hastily planned? yes, was is > a bunch of individualists randomly opening fire? certainly not. And let's not pretend that what the colonists pulled off against England was very, very lucky, and very dependent on unique situations. 3000 miles of ocean, plagues of mosquitoes (seriously!) and lots of help from France were all necessary and very lucky for the Americans. If Ireland had tried the same thing - um, which they actually did - the outcome would have been far less successful. -- - Frank Krygowski