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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: MS Excel Working As Designed Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 13:57:51 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vmgtjf$122ro$1@dont-email.me> References: <181b83589a58e91d$131121$32720$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <spqdnTWpWv8iUhf6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com> <vmenu5$9hcv$2@dont-email.me> <-L6dnZ9Zr8JUdBf6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com> <vmf5b6$d902$2@dont-email.me> <1EqdnRxxt-P-shb6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 19:57:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="338959a320eb50c2f56ca8a3a632bf73"; logging-data="1117048"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/64LFjGMrFg2pt3lM16Bpy78avi0/wg2o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3/ET2B1bBEl+eRwsYV4bzg93BFU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1EqdnRxxt-P-shb6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> Bytes: 2898 On 1/17/25 11:34 PM, Tyrone wrote: > On Jan 17, 2025 at 9:57:41 PM EST, "-hh" wrote: > >> Makes sense, even before contemplating if their original choice was >> motivated because of how limited memory/storage/etc was in that era, or >> just a lack of sophistication on leap year rules ... or both, since it >> was decades prior to Y2K awareness. > > VisiCalc required only 32K in the Apple II. 32K. Which meant that the DOS, > Visicalc and your spreadsheet had to fit in 32K. Yup, what I was alluding to. I do recall reading a Apple ][ reference book in that era where it had described the boot-up process .. IIRC, it was something like that Apple DOS actually consisted of 3 DOS's due to hardware limitations. The first one was that the ROMs were so small that the floppy drive was only smart enough to read one track on the disk, so the first DOS was instructions to read more of the floppy disk. The second part did something more (I forget the description), and the third part was the actual 'full' DOS for operating the whole system. > Even in 1979, correctly handling dates in 1900 was not a priority. No one is > going to go over and above to handle all scenarios with 32K to work with. True, back in that era, the concept of working extensively with dates (especially backdating) was probably well beyond the originally intended scope of VisiCalc. I can recall seeing an Apple ][ with VisiCalc in our office in this pre-IBM PC era ... IIRC, for navigating between cells, thumbing the space bar changed the arrows keys from <left/right> to <up/down>. -hh