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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: More fake science: Your Vegan ancestors
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 13:22:41 -0600
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On 1/18/2025 11:33 AM, JTEM wrote:
> On 1/18/25 10:13 AM, RonO wrote:
> 
>> There is no reason to believe that Australopithecus ate any more meat 
>> than chimps.
> 
> Well it's six of one/half dozen of the other.
> 
> But there's also a very good argument to be made that we are
> not descended from Australopithecus. It was for a very long
> time dismissed as an evolutionary "Cousin."
> 
>> QUOTE:
>> Lüdecke notes that the findings don’t mean A. africanus couldn’t have 
>> occasionally exploited a meaty meal. The results also don’t rule out 
>> the primates eating lots of termites — a reliable, high-energy food — 
>> since they contain relatively less of the form of nitrogen elevated in 
>> mammalian meat.
>> END QUOTE:
>>
>> The picture is of a robust Australopithecine that had huge teeth for 
>> processing vegetation.  They seemed to be equiped to process 
>> vegetation that even chimps could not eat.  Leakey called A. robustus 
>> nutcracker man back in the 1960's.
> 
> Well many claim to see both a gracile & robust Australopithecus, with
> a diet separating the two. But there is an argument that
> Australopithecus isn't even an ancestor. It's one of the VERY frequent
> criticisms of paleo anthropology where anything they pluck out of the
> ground is dubbed an ancestor then shoehorned into some savanna idiocy.
> 
> These veggy-lusting-ancestor kick is pure politics, and nothing more.
> 

The article that you posted was about Australopithecines.

Ron Okimoto