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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Foundations of Large Language Models (Re: Philosophize not God, Philosophize the Door Knob) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 22:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: <vmh5si$5b0b$3@solani.org> References: <vmert4$41rn$4@solani.org> <vmh59u$5anv$3@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 21:19:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="175115"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Cancel-Lock: sha1:YnEyLL9Ozwd4DQFLByvWNfxhbFU= In-Reply-To: <vmh59u$5anv$3@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwFwQkRwEAIBDBLy/AcyCmw+JfQxDUk5ll4mJ9fmyDOxXmWZZy5uiyosr9kpBKzKmvB7mZvQxZyoOMZfmUBFhU= Hi, Now looking for door knobs philosophy in this brand new 200 pages: Foundations of Large Language Models Tong Xiao, Jingbo Zhu - 16 Jan 2025 https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.09223v1 Woa! Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > What if Computer Vision = Computer Linguistic. > That is, if the areas are based on the same > problems and the same solutions. > > An example I “see” a doorknob. In order to > open the door I have to be able to visually > recognize a variety of different designs and > classify them according to function. > > Is this part on the door intended to open the door? > > We can do that as humans. It's the same problem > with words. There are different words with the > same "function" in a context. In principle it's > > very similar, I could imagine that Computer Vision > has simply re-fertilized Computer Linguistic. > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> How it started: >> >> Computers Still Can't Do Beautiful Mathematics - by Gina Kolata >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Mathematicians often say that their craft is as much an art >> as a science. But as more and more researchers are using >> computers to prove their theorems, some worry that the magic >> is in danger of fading away. >> >> How its going: >> >> Computers Do Produce Beautiful Mathematics - Dr. Larry Wos >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> In addition to exhibiting logical reasoning of the type >> found in mathematics, reasoning programs produce results >> that are startling and elegant. Dr. J. Lukasiewicz was well >> recognized for his contributions to areas of logic, >> >> and yet the program OTTER recently found a proof far shorter and >> more elegant than that produced by this eminent researcher, >> and the program used the same notation and style of >> reasoning. Mathematicians and logicians find elegance in >> shorter proofs. >> >> In August of 1990, Dr. Dana Scott of Carnegie Mellon >> University attended a workshop at Argonne National >> Laboratory. There he learned of OTTER and some of its uses >> and successes. Upon returning to his university, Dr. >> Scott's curiosity prompted him to suggest (via electronic >> mail) 68 theorems for consideration by the computer. >> >> His curiosity was almost immediately satisfied, for the sought- >> after 68 proofs were returned with the comment that all were >> obtained in a single computer run with the program--and in >> less than 16 CPU minutes on a Sun 4 workstation. Dr. Scott >> now uses his own copy of OTTER on his Macintosh. >> >> Dr. R. Smullyan of the University of Indiana showed >> great pleasure and surprise at learning of some of the >> successes achieved by an automated reasoning program. As >> evidence of his interest, he posed a number of questions, >> receiving in turn the answers to all but one of them--a >> question that is still open. >> https://theory.stanford.edu/~uribe/mail/qed.messages/91.html >> >> Bye >