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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: battery fire Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 15:42:49 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vmhvsb$1gaqc$3@dont-email.me> References: <jqrkojlsnkbnilv90tbap8qio7obqo7cde@4ax.com> <vmeisf$7ugc$1@dont-email.me> <vmfqqo$mdeq$1@dont-email.me> <1r6cqml.vq4fh9uef02N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 05:42:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="44793f494f742c595be489f4b23356cb"; logging-data="1583948"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18t4WPd90JqHL+7nqg2R07cyoqp1+26ir0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vpS6oULAhqR+U3z7OZKMlgtFffs= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250118-4, 19/1/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <1r6cqml.vq4fh9uef02N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2574 On 18/01/2025 9:37 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 17/01/2025 21:42, Martin Brown wrote: >> >>> Lithium ion battery fires are virtually impossible to put out - you have >>> to let them burn out and use boundary cooling on the neighbouring >>> modules with copious amounts of water. Looks like this one managed to >>> get away from the fire fighters (which isn't supposed to happen). >> >> We have no problem building large windmills at sea. Why not build the >> lithium storage facilities off the coast too? The capital cost would be >> higher, but once built they could be maintained in a similar way to >> those on land. And if one caught fire, there's plenty of water around to >> put the fire out, or at least keep it under control. For even greater >> safety - and expense - they could be built as submerged facilities, >> where any fire could be dealt with in seconds by opening a valve and >> letting sea water flood the building. > > I seem to remember from my chemistry lessons that lithium reacts > violently with water. Containing lithium pollution of large areas of > the sea in stormy conditions (which is when catastrophic failure is most > likely to occur) might be quite difficult. >