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Subject: Re: Artificiqal Intelligence
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On 1/18/2025 3:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/18/2025 2:01 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>> On Wed Jan 15 19:13:46 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 20:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Tom Kunich
>>> <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> perhaps you cqan explain to people here HOW you can have facial OR
>>>> fingerprint recognician without AI?
>>>
>>> That's easy.  First, how a fingerprint scanner works:
>>>
>>> "Fingerprint Scanners: How Do They Work?"
>>> <https://www.uscybersecurity.net/fingerprint-scanners/>
>>> See the section titled "How Do Fingerprint Scanners Work".
>>>
>>> If you skim that article, you won't find any mention of AI.  I just
>>> skimmed a few more such "how it works" articles and none of those
>>> mentioned AI.
>>>
>>> Here's a few pages full of fingerprint locks:
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=fingerprint%20lock&udm=2>
>>> These fingerprint sensors are found in door locks, padlocks, cash
>>> boxes, secure flash drives, gun locks, garage doors and so on.  Please
>>> look at the pictures and find me a fingerprint lock that is big enough
>>> to have a large language model processor inside.  Also, look for one
>>> that is connected to the internet so that it can use a real AI
>>> computer to do the fingerprint matching.  You might think that the
>>> fingerprint censor in your swellphone connects to an AI computer
>>> located in order to do the fingerprint matching, but that's obviously
>>> not the case because the swellphone fingerprint security system works
>>> quite nicely without any internet connection (i.e. in airplane mode).
>>>
>>> Since you introduced facial recognition to this discussion, I'll leave
>>> you with the problem.  It's a bit more complexicated, but it's
>>> basically the same method as fingerprint recognition.  The software
>>> compares a stored phone with a camera image.  The software looks for
>>> matching features.  If enough of these match, then the stored image
>>> and the camera image(s) have a sufficient number of matching features,
>>> the are deemed identical and the user is authenticated.
>>>
>>>> Do you HAVE to keep showing why you are a failure?
>>>
>>> No, I don't have to.  I could ignore you and let you rot in the hell
>>> of your own creation.  However, that would be too merciful.  You seem
>>> to enjoy our discussions even though most demonstrate that you don't
>>> have even a minimal understanding of how many things work.  That
>>> should be sufficient for your daily does of self abuse.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Liebermann, when you don't know how something works, stop pretending 
>> that you fo. A fingerprint scanner operates by cutting the fingerprint 
>> into segments and then attempting to match the same segment line for 
>> line. This involves shifting and rotating trying to find a match. The 
>> initial scanners only tried to match the center of the finger print 
>> but now the CPU's are powerful enough that they can match the entire 
>> touchg zone and call it a match if they can achieve a 60% match.
>>
>> Why don't you simply act like Flunky and pretend that programming is 
>> just so boring that you don't want to do it?
> 
> Or by vector pattern matching:
> 
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

Trust me when I tell you, I'm not pretending.

>