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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: web Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:47:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: <vmj39r$29je9$1@dont-email.me> References: <67447ce1$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vi3ecs$35u53$1@dont-email.me> <6c4ae24b-7bb8-7d84-8f74-1f5fc14c0ec0@example.net> <87ed2yjkl8.fsf@tilde.institute> <55db8483-58f0-c3dc-de0b-7f44881fa180@example.net> <87jzcp4pzy.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <viorqr$mnrh$1@dont-email.me> <viotl0$n3vg$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvl0pq8.1ddsk.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vir0m3$17csf$3@dont-email.me> <6754c3a1@news.ausics.net> <vj49do$3r1ov$1@dont-email.me> <vm1hk3$1etjc$1@dont-email.me> <6Qspx-PwipMTzeeG@violet.siamics.net> <678975ab@news.ausics.net> <jWv0GNpJelv3n7gK@violet.siamics.net> Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 15:47:24 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3e5e78bac3a5244417d4ee34c0a7c3a2"; logging-data="2411977"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18e2Z3OVTJ4YLH5kTQRrSLGwS0sC5+XkaE=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y1hZT5MvdfYuoL80r2u8pNGCqGI= Bytes: 2406 On 2025-01-18, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid> wrote: > > I. e., my point being: you can't escape web by switching to > Gopher, because Gopher /is/ web. (Even if 'darker' part of it.) I realize that the distinction between the web and the Internet can be confusing. At one point Microsoft labeled the web browser desktop icon "The Internet". At another point Gmail made it mainstream to do email in a web browser. <https://www.getmyos.com/upload/files/2018/10/05/ windows_95_screenshot_1_1_bedc52f3b61686c533b5b318405508a6.png> Below is a link explaining the difference between the web and the Internet. <https://askleo.com/whats-the-difference-between-the-web-and- the-internet/> In short, gopher is not the web. It does not use the HTTP protocol, the HTML format, nor other web standards such as Javascript. Gopher is a separate protocol that is not directly viewable in mainstream browsers such as Chrome and Mozilla.