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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:44:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: <vmk2p8$2he6g$1@dont-email.me> References: <luqtrgFijddU4@mid.individual.net> <9makojd8r7e9klc4rf4nhisgeaei61v2ue@4ax.com> <vmekv4$8i60$4@dont-email.me> <narnoj9teonmaou3hd93igh5u6lm9nj6t1@4ax.com> <vmh57p$13tfu$3@dont-email.me> <o7XiP.41806$h3%7.23082@fx02.iad> <6ggoojp323mcc2n812l0rl73cvda1ej2ds@4ax.com> <vmhqmi$1b98f$1@dont-email.me> <fh9qojpadal3iv5shrrtgoih2o2c233vu1@4ax.com> <vmjce1$2chh8$1@dont-email.me> <0kdqojtddtbqr8r0als321flvqiraasej2@4ax.com> <vmjopa$2e0o4$1@dont-email.me> <1opqojdsmei692rjbghl1t3e1rijq2239c@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 00:44:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8ee405650316616af51bf1cb57df2bb"; logging-data="2668752"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19a0H8x1fXueD+EZVdkLMu6wk6gujW0lvg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:O69VYgHSdS/p2xgmmh/L8iacDgM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1opqojdsmei692rjbghl1t3e1rijq2239c@4ax.com> Bytes: 3883 On 1/19/25 3:59 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> Win10 need[s] support till >>>>>>> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not necessarily: Win10 came out back in 2015, and your current PC >>>>>> was a license transfer from an older machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10? >>>>> >>>>> Think, power user, is anyone other than Relf's old computer running a >>>>> vintage *build* of Windows 10, since an expert knows it grew bloat- >>>>> wise at least until 20H2. It would save me from Win11 hell, if it had >>>>> real extended support, but they'll make it short-term. M$ has >>>>> endorsed GNU/Linux. >>>> >>>> Irrelevant to the question posed on lifecycle costs ... >>>> >>>> "When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?" >>> >>> My PC started life with 20H2, which was a dream. >> >> Which PC? The new one that you've since given up on Windows for? > > > My Linux dream machine, yes. Which is the evasion that I expected, for I was asking of its predecessor. >> And when was this, for the question still remains unanswered: >> >> "When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?" > > > At 10's release, it had 7 and 8/8.1, then 7 again, then 10, then > Linux. Meaning that it predated Win10's 2015 release date, so you did get roughly ten (10) years life out of that legacy hardware, as per what DFS was saying. >>> M$ has disowned numerous computers. >> >> By almost as much as you've avoided answering this simple question. > > Win10 would make this PC golden, but support is dropped. Support hasn't been dropped yet. MS has extended claimed EOL's in the past and could easily do so again. Plus Win10 currently has a 62.7% usage share of all Windows OS systems, and it doesn't seem all that likely that its usage is going to drop fast enough to make it an insignificant percentage by October 2025 <https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide> Plus even if an OEM's official support has ended, there's nothing which prevents you from just continuing to run a legacy OS. Case in point, 3% of Windows usage share is of pre-Win10 OS's (XP/7/8/etc) still in use. -hh