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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: OT: Typical Globlist
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 01:16:25 +1100
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On 20/01/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 13:10:58 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 09:49:31 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> The proposition that radiant heat generated by one burning would set off
>>>> an adjacent house is pretty dumb. Fire codes are written to make sure
>>>> that houses aren't vulnerable in that way.
>>>
>>> In that case, what spread the fire?
>>
>> Airborne embers I would guess.
> 
> That shouldn't be allowed to happen, but the breeze was offshore when
> that seaside strip burned.
> 
> Sloman snipped my link of course. He does that when reality interferes
> with his theories.

John Larkin's idea of "reality" is what his propaganda sources want to 
tell him.

> There are many pics of the LA fire, and of Paradise and Lahaina.
> Houses set houses on fire, leaving rubble and green trees. The fire
> codes, and especially enforcement, were criminally stupid in all those
> cases.

Intense fires are unexpectedly good at igniting adjacent structures.

This was an unprecedented fire, and calling people criminally stupid for 
not anticipating how bad it was going to be is arm-chair quarter-backing.

> Our cabin in the mountains is not very flammible from radiation or
> grass fires or from embers, and the local enforcement of defensible
> space rules are brutal. Steel roof, no gutters, no attic with vents,
> first floor is concrete blocks.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/i9tvka59d0mizo5e5qxnn/Sides.jpg?rlkey=qbzapwuvtju7bjoswnfu1gmhc&raw=1
> 
> We are required to trim tree limbs and remove pine needles and scrub
> bushes and such. Housing density is low by design.
> 
> There's a forestry department that inspects every property and issues
> periodic reports too.
> 
> Humans have known about fire for dozens of years by now.

The Great Fire of London happened in 1666 and Robert Hooke and 
Christopher Wren  drew quite a few conclusions from it.

Australians learned quite a bit from the Black Friday on the 13th 
January 1939. That was 86 years ago - more than seven dozen years.

Commercial interests aren't always interested in putting into practice 
all stuff we know about making devastating fires less likely.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney