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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: web Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 15:37:07 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vmlqj3$37og2$1@dont-email.me> References: <67447ce1$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vi3ecs$35u53$1@dont-email.me> <6c4ae24b-7bb8-7d84-8f74-1f5fc14c0ec0@example.net> <87ed2yjkl8.fsf@tilde.institute> <55db8483-58f0-c3dc-de0b-7f44881fa180@example.net> <87jzcp4pzy.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <viorqr$mnrh$1@dont-email.me> <viotl0$n3vg$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvl0pq8.1ddsk.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vir0m3$17csf$3@dont-email.me> <6754c3a1@news.ausics.net> <vj49do$3r1ov$1@dont-email.me> <vm1hk3$1etjc$1@dont-email.me> <6Qspx-PwipMTzeeG@violet.siamics.net> <678975ab@news.ausics.net> <jWv0GNpJelv3n7gK@violet.siamics.net> <vmj39r$29je9$1@dont-email.me> <87cygivmy3.fsf@tilde.institute> Injection-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:37:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8d8393312fe6576b19bf35a616be284"; logging-data="3400194"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wP8vetFbvMsNxiR5fgRpYpuEk2m1ErS8=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zkxHZPUw3z33t0d7ayPiJ8FlP+I= Bytes: 2457 On 2025-01-19, yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote: > Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote: > >> In short, gopher is not the web. It does not use the HTTP protocol, >> the HTML format, nor other web standards such as Javascript. Gopher >> is a separate protocol that is not directly viewable in mainstream >> browsers such as Chrome and Mozilla. > > I contradict. > > When browsers appeared, we thought of the web as what was accessible > by them. FTP, HTTP and Gopher were among this in the early days. In the dawn of the Internet some people used a service called FTPmail because it could be faster and cheaper to transfer data over email than over direct Internet connections. By your logic, one could argue that FTP is email because it was historically used in email clients. One could also argue that because when browsers appeared, they could view HTML content over the Server Message Block protocol, that CIFS is also the web. Such arguments strike me as disingenuous.