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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:47:45 -0600
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On 1/20/2025 11:23 AM, Shadow wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:01:25 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> In any major war, WW 2 in this case, "career personnel" make up a very
>> small percentage of military officers.. Simply because there is no
>> need for great numbers in piece time so, prior to war few are trained.
> 
> 	Brazil has far more senior officers than the US. Example: The
> US has 43 4-star generals. Bolsonaro used them as office boys.
> 	None of them ever fought an external enemy.
> 	They retire when they're 50 with full pensions (their salary+a
> promotion).
> 	Also any wife or daughter of an officer is entitled to his
> pension if he dies. They only lose it if they re-marry (in case of
> daughters, marry).
> 	I have some colleagues that never married because they make
> over US $ 25.000 a month from their military pensions. Working as
> doctors they make around US$ 5.000 tops.
> 
>>
>> As for, "Mean while in the actual world, a Brazilian division
>> acquitted themselves very well", from what I read the Brazilian
>> contingents "went to war" with the understand that the U.S.was to
>> supply all arms and supplies, right down to their uniforms and that
>> they would act under the control of U.S. forces commanders.
> 
> 	Yes, the commanders were American. But clothing and food was
> supposed to be supplied by the Brazilian military....
> 	They got the color of the uniforms wrong because the Brazilian
> Military were fascists (still are) and thought they would be fighting
> for Hitler. Hence Brazilian uniforms = German uniforms.
> 	[]'s

I don't know about Field Grey vs Army Green Khaki for FEB 
uniforms. (you are probably right I just don't know).

But the history of the period (1939 until the force was 
dispatched) doesn't support any confusion about which side 
they allied:

"Although Brazil broke off diplomatic relations with Germany 
following that nation’s declaration of war against the 
United States, federal officials in Rio did not immediately 
declare war on the Nazi regime in Berlin. Adolf Hitler 
initially waffled over a plan to attack shipping along the 
Brazilian coast, fearing Brazil, Argentina and Chile would 
ally with the United States. Ultimately, however, the Führer 
did order his submarine force on the offensive. The U-boats 
sank at least a half dozen Brazilian ships, galvanizing its 
populace, which demanded vengeance. Thus Brazil declared war 
on Germany on Aug. 22, 1942."

https://www.historynet.com/brazilian-soldiers-wwii/

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971