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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 11:25:57 -0600
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On 1/21/2025 10:51 AM, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 20:20:27 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:01:01 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:48:33 +0100, Rolf Mantel
>>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> San Francisco or Oakland to LA is only an hour on commercial
>>>>> aircraft. The same to Las Vegas and only a half hour more to Arizona
>>>>> and only a half hour more than that to Denver. Trains simply do not
>>>>> work with the distances between major cities in the US. Too bad, I
>>>>> do like railroads.
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary, exactly those are the distances that work on high-speed
>>>> trains.  "One hour on commercial aricraft" means a total travelling time
>>>> of approx. three hours "city-center to city-center"; a "2:40 non-stop
>>>> travel time" by train as planned on completion of phase 1 would kill the
>>>> air market completely.
>>>
>>> 	I agree. You waste over an hour going to the airport and
>>> passing through the secret state police.
>>
>> Don't forget the "9/11"  catastrophe here in the U.S.The bad guys were
>> cleared ,by security, to be  passengers on the airplanes.
> 
> 	And some "survived" the crash, and were arrested in Europe a
> while later.
> 	PS I don't think "Homeland Security" even existed before
> Bush's coup. Were people searched  when boarding planes before that? I
> never was. Only after I landed, by customs. Even that was unusual.
> 	[]'s
>>
>>> And when you reach your
>>> destination, it's usually at least 30 mins to the center of town. Two
>>> wasted hours.
>>> 	I presume train passengers would not be subject to "homeland
>>> insecurity" groping. Unless one of the CEO's from the "air market"
>>> paid someone to plant a bomb. The usual "take me to Cuba" excuse would
>>> not work.
>>> 	[]'s

There were no 'survivors'.  Massoui was unable to make his 
arranged meeting with the other plotters on 11 September as 
he was jailed in Minnesota on immigration violations. Our 
'famed' security apparatus failed to connect him to the plot 
until after the fact.

https://www.famous-trials.com/moussaoui

Massoui's indictment:
https://www.justice.gov/archives/ag/indictment-zacarias-moussaoui

That's right about air travel. I usually just paid cash, no 
ID including after once throwing a rod in my MGB. I bummed a 
ride to an airport and flew back with my heavy toolbox, cash 
ticket, no ID.


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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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