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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,alt.radio.talk Subject: Re: Why Biden's Last Second Pardons Were SHAMEFUL. Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 14:19:58 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vmos0v$8rkj$1@dont-email.me> References: <ArCcnQda06WAGhL6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 20:20:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1753171f8cbb2d05c315e0f6b5246604"; logging-data="290451"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wT+8ogTTYIGHxl7bD+3XqjsTwLm8ofoA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Td/NfVKAZVIpSJ66wBETXkWnG3g= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <ArCcnQda06WAGhL6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com> X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250121-0, 1/20/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 2405 On 2025-01-21 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote: > Dana Loesch reacts to Joe Biden's final act as President by issuing > preemptive pardons to Dr. Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milley and select > members of his family. > > https://youtu.be/1SUzugSl2zU?si=hTexzTIs3GIpS2Dq > I would be very curious to see what would happen if someone contested a preemptive pardon in the courts. Let's say someone wanted to have Fauci charged with something he did during the period covered by the pardon. His lawyers would obviously cite the pardon but what if the prosecutor didn't think a preemptive pardon was a power held by the president and proceeded with the trial. Presumably any guilty verdict would be challenged on appeal but then the appeal could be challenged as well. I can't help but wonder what the Supreme Court would rule about the presidential pardon power if the case made it to them. Or have preemptive pardons already been tested in court and found to be a valid expression of a president's powers? A preemptive pardon seems like a presumption of the guilt of the recipient by the president which would seem to go against the entire presumption of innocence at the heart of the legal system. -- Rhino