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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,alt.radio.talk Subject: Re: Why Biden's Last Second Pardons Were SHAMEFUL. Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:09:54 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vmp2f3$cru6$1@dont-email.me> References: <ArCcnQda06WAGhL6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com> <vmos0v$8rkj$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 22:09:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c936976bf353941817592a27a05b1de"; logging-data="421830"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+H+nH7Xpp2r3096FOIBZrBC1SJ65P+ARI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:d393OA5IfA98DShS+MNshBBMPMs= In-Reply-To: <vmos0v$8rkj$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2488 On 1/21/2025 2:19 PM, Rhino wrote: > On 2025-01-21 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote: >> Dana Loesch reacts to Joe Biden's final act as President by issuing >> preemptive pardons to Dr. Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milley and select >> members of his family. >> >> https://youtu.be/1SUzugSl2zU?si=hTexzTIs3GIpS2Dq >> > > I would be very curious to see what would happen if someone contested a > preemptive pardon in the courts. Let's say someone wanted to have Fauci > charged with something he did during the period covered by the pardon. > His lawyers would obviously cite the pardon but what if the prosecutor > didn't think a preemptive pardon was a power held by the president and > proceeded with the trial. Presumably any guilty verdict would be > challenged on appeal but then the appeal could be challenged as well. I > can't help but wonder what the Supreme Court would rule about the > presidential pardon power if the case made it to them. > > Or have preemptive pardons already been tested in court and found to be > a valid expression of a president's powers? > > A preemptive pardon seems like a presumption of the guilt of the > recipient by the president which would seem to go against the entire > presumption of innocence at the heart of the legal system. ....except that it was stated to be expressly NOT such a presumption.