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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 22:54:29 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 1/8/2025 4:39 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> s/LO Basic/Basic/
>
> VBA makes absolute mincement out of LO Basic.  VBA is built for and
> great for manipulating the Office environment and managing data.

What a laugh. I already showed you some more advanced Python code for
working with LibreOffice documents, and your reaction was one of pure
terror and confusion.

>> It offers much more advanced DBMS functionality than Microsoft Access
>> can match.
>
> Prove this claim in detail, with screenshots and code as needed.

We’ve been through this before. You ran away that time; are you going
to do it again?

<https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/sdatabase/dabawiz00.html?DbPAR=BASE#bm_id2026429>

>>> Plus the form and report designers are bogus.
>>
>> What can Office do that they can’t?
>
> *  the Access form designer offers NINE types of autoforms/starters to
>     quickly give you a skeleton layout you can then customize
>
>     https://imgur.com/5zJKuWM

Interesting: no subform components, just a fixed list.

<https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/autopi/01090000.html?&DbPAR=BASE&System=UNIX>

> *  the Access report designer lets you easily add standalone code or
>     existing macros to every section of the report (header, footer,
>     group/s, detail) or to the report object itself (which code fires
>     during report events activate/deactivate, open/close, error, Page,
>     NoData).  I couldn't find a way to add LO Basic code to an LO report
>     at all.

Maybe you were looking in the wrong place?

<https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/02/01170000.html?&DbPAR=BASE&System=UNIX>

> The LO Base reporting functionality is buggy and weird and limited...
> just FUBAR:
>
> * create a report on a table, save the report, dbl-click to open it and
>    it shows the data as expected.  It also says 'This document is open
>    in read-only mode.' and there's an 'Edit Document' button.  Click
>    that button and it changes into a weird spreadsheet-like edit mode
>    where you can make changes to the labels and the data (insert rows,
>    delete rows, edit data), but those label changes aren't saved, and
>    data edits aren't propagated to the underlying table.  I don't get
>    it.

You do realize, forms and reports are two different things?

> * LO Base report objects have 10 editable properties and settings.  MS
>    Access report objects have 47.
>
> * LO Base labels have 16 editable properties; Access report
>    labels have 32.
>
> * LO Base data fields have 20 editable properties; Access report
>    data fields have 39.
>
>    https://imgur.com/a/6yaK2q3

LO has a bit more than that.

<https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/guide/data_report.html?&DbPAR=BASE&System=UNIX>

> There are many, many oddball bugs and weird behaviors in LO form and
> report designers.

I think you just have no clue how to use software that isn’t from
Microsoft.

> Face facts: MS is smarter than FOSS and works harder than FOSS.

So why is Microsoft trying to hard to embrace FOSS? And more than
that, to turn Windows into Linux?