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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Why Biden's Last Second Pardons Were SHAMEFUL.
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 22:42:11 -0500
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On 1/21/2025 8:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2025-01-21 4:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 1/21/2025 2:19 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-21 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>> Dana Loesch reacts to Joe Biden's final act as President by issuing
>>>> preemptive pardons to Dr. Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milley and select
>>>> members of his family.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/1SUzugSl2zU?si=hTexzTIs3GIpS2Dq
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would be very curious to see what would happen if someone contested 
>>> a preemptive pardon in the courts. Let's say someone wanted to have 
>>> Fauci charged with something he did during the period covered by the 
>>> pardon. His lawyers would obviously cite the pardon but what if the 
>>> prosecutor didn't think a preemptive pardon was a power held by the 
>>> president and proceeded with the trial. Presumably any guilty verdict 
>>> would be challenged on appeal but then the appeal could be challenged 
>>> as well. I can't help but wonder what the Supreme Court would rule 
>>> about the presidential pardon power if the case made it to them.
>>>
>>> Or have preemptive pardons already been tested in court and found to 
>>> be a valid expression of a president's powers?
>>>
>>> A preemptive pardon seems like a presumption of the guilt of the 
>>> recipient by the president which would seem to go against the entire 
>>> presumption of innocence at the heart of the legal system.
>>
>> ...except that it was stated to be expressly NOT such a presumption.
>>
> It makes no sense to pardon an innocent person!

....unless innocent people are sometimes charged and/or convicted.